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Benchmade benched, at least temporarily

Bassbob said:
You realize those were firearms used in crimes that couldn’t be put back into circulation and not “ confiscated firearms” right ?
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Yes, I was explicit when I said 'confiscated'. IDK, maybe it's because I've lived in Indiana for more than 50 years but when firearms kept for evidence, etc., are no longer needed by police departments, these firearms are NOT destroyed, they're sold at auction to FFL's and the paperwork indicates they're "free and clear", so to speak. Quite a few of these firearms weren't cheapos, either. Some had serious value. Naturally, the criminals that stole these didn't care, but Indiana is very pro-2A. Anyone that buys one of these understands that keeping their documents handy is just good ownership.
 
MN.Militia said:
Yes, I was explicit when I said 'confiscated'. IDK, maybe it's because I've lived in Indiana for more than 50 years but when firearms kept for evidence, etc., are no longer needed by police departments, these firearms are NOT destroyed, they're sold at auction to FFL's and the paperwork indicates they're "free and clear", so to speak. Quite a few of these firearms weren't cheapos, either. Some had serious value. Naturally, the criminals that stole these didn't care, but Indiana is very pro-2A. Anyone that buys one of these understands that keeping their documents handy is just good ownership.
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So These were guns used in crimes. No matter what Benchmade said or did they were gonna be destroyed. So what’s your beef with them helping out local law enforcement?
That’s by definition NOT gun confiscation.
 
MN.Militia said:
Yes, I was explicit when I said 'confiscated'. IDK, maybe it's because I've lived in Indiana for more than 50 years but when firearms kept for evidence, etc., are no longer needed by police departments, these firearms are NOT destroyed, they're sold at auction to FFL's and the paperwork indicates they're "free and clear", so to speak. Quite a few of these firearms weren't cheapos, either. Some had serious value. Naturally, the criminals that stole these didn't care, but Indiana is very pro-2A. Anyone that buys one of these understands that keeping their documents handy is just good ownership.
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I was out to lunch when two deputies i know stopped at my table to say hi. We ended up eating together and this subject came up. They said that from what they hear more and more jurisdictions are destroying firearms after they no longer have evidenciary value because of the numbers being used in a crime again. Neither mentioned who makes this type of decision but it's likely a politician. They also said that they understood in some states it was even required by law, but they never mentioned where and we moved on to other things.
 
Sld1959 said:
I was out to lunch when two deputies i know stopped at my table to say hi. We ended up eating together and this subject came up. They said that from what they hear more and more jurisdictions are destroying firearms after they no longer have evidenciary value because of the numbers being used in a crime again. Neither mentioned who makes this type of decision but it's likely a politician. They also said that they understood in some states it was even required by law, but they never mentioned where and we moved on to other things.
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You won't buy a firearm from the police in Illinois. They get destroyed. I did have a stolen pistol returned to me after it went to the FBI lab South of me. I promptly traded it in on something else as soon as I got it back too.
 
Sld1959 said:
I was out to lunch when two deputies i know stopped at my table to say hi. We ended up eating together and this subject came up. They said that from what they hear more and more jurisdictions are destroying firearms after they no longer have evidenciary value because of the numbers being used in a crime again. Neither mentioned who makes this type of decision but it's likely a politician. They also said that they understood in some states it was even required by law, but they never mentioned where and we moved on to other things.
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OK I guess I'm just not keeping up with the times. As far as Benchmade goes, it's not just that they did this, at the time this was controversial I did some digging with the help of a few other 2A activists. Turns out the owners of Benchmade have a love affair with antigun Democrats... it's in the FEC filings... so for me, that put them on my permanent :poop: list.

FWIW, if they changed course significantly since 2020 (I guess that's my next homework), I might (not guaranteed) change my mind. But I'm pretty sure they don't support the 2A group for knives, Knife Rights.
 
MN.Militia said:
OK I guess I'm just not keeping up with the times. As far as Benchmade goes, it's not just that they did this, at the time this was controversial I did some digging with the help of a few other 2A activists. Turns out the owners of Benchmade have a love affair with antigun Democrats... it's in the FEC filings... so for me, that put them on my permanent :poop: list.

FWIW, if they changed course significantly since 2020 (I guess that's my next homework), I might (not guaranteed) change my mind. But I'm pretty sure they don't support the 2A group for knives, Knife Rights.
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Yea i have seen the arguments back and forth over what they did and did not do.

As far as the political aspect, claims abound that Benchmade made political contributions to Anti 2a politicians. You do realize that it is illegal for companies to contribute to Federal election campaigns? And the ones I have seen were in Federal elections, if true there would have been bigger issues for Benchmade than a bit of public outrage.

The more i read over it all the more I am reminded of many conspiracy theories and opinion which become fact over the sheer numbers of repeating online. But that is just my opinion.

Your opinion is different and I respect that completely. And I would just as soon the thread get back on track. So in that vein.

The Benchmade is now in the knife duffel as I look at other option with a tip down orientation. They are surprisingly hard to find in a lock I like. Spyderco has some but most are liner locks, not in the running at all, or back action locks which are harder to manipulate one handed. I have seen a couple button locks that might be interesting to find one in.
 
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Sld1959 said:
As far as the political aspect, claims abound that Benchmade made political contributions to Anti 2a politicians. You do realize that it is illegal for companies to contribute to Federal election campaigns?
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I said the OWNERS. Read that again. Just like the owners of Black Rifle Coffee Co. On that note, I despise how they threw Kyle Rittenhouse under the bus in late 2020. Judged him with no facts weeks before his trial started. But that's another matter.
 
The above looks like a really nice knife. I have a few knives from different makers but loving my Benchmades. I have been looking at Spartan Blades and also Toor Knives and Emersons. I have been really looking hard at the Emerson CQC7 flipper.
 
wolfpack076 said:
The above looks like a really nice knife. I have a few knives from different makers but loving my Benchmades. I have been looking at Spartan Blades and also Toor Knives and Emersons. I have been really looking hard at the Emerson CQC7 flipper.
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Liner locks are off the table for me. Do not trust them left handed which is my dominant hand. They can, and do, close occasionally. The pressure of gripping the knife presses inward against the liner in an unlocking direction. Found this out the hard way and havecm researched it since.

Its why Lake and Walker created the LAWKS , lake and walker liner lock safety which CRKT Uses a lot.
 
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