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Brand new saint, 1st cleaning

I'm new to the AR platform, having just picked up my brand new SA Saint 5.56. I've YouTube myself full to the brink on how to do a thorough first cleaning. I've only seen a couple of videos but am looking for more tips, hints, and tricks to clean my rifle before I start putting round down range. I have an AR 5.56 kit and will use Hoppe's #9 solvent and oil. Thanks in advance.
 
I'm new to the AR platform, having just picked up my brand new SA Saint 5.56. I've YouTube myself full to the brink on how to do a thorough first cleaning. I've only seen a couple of videos but am looking for more tips, hints, and tricks to clean my rifle before I start putting round down range. I have an AR 5.56 kit and will use Hoppe's #9 solvent and oil. Thanks in advance.
Watching YouTube videos is good but your owners manual is the best place to start. Cleaning an AR is very easy but if you have concerns take pictures as you take it apart so you know how it should look when your putting it back together.
You can also talk to your local LGS to see if they have classes on AR maintenance.
 
Thank you, one and all for the excellent suggestions/ recommendations. Greatly appreciated. I'm taking her to the range this Sunday. Any thoughts on barrel break in procedure? Once again, YouTube is split between yes and not necessary. I want to do right by my saint. I understand barrel break in will give my rifle a longer accurate life, not necessarily just a longer life. Thanks again.
 
Thank you, one and all for the excellent suggestions/ recommendations. Greatly appreciated. I'm taking her to the range this Sunday. Any thoughts on barrel break in procedure? Once again, YouTube is split between yes and not necessary. I want to do right by my saint. I understand barrel break in will give my rifle a longer accurate life, not necessarily just a longer life. Thanks again.
10000000 believe in break in
10000000 dont

Personally for me, modern sporting rifle from a major manufacturer, dont bother.

I would just say dont mag dump 90 rounds thru it right off the bat. Just take your time and shoot accurately for getting a feel for your new rifle. Take your time. Like a first date.
 
I'm new to the AR platform, having just picked up my brand new SA Saint 5.56. I've YouTube myself full to the brink on how to do a thorough first cleaning. I've only seen a couple of videos but am looking for more tips, hints, and tricks to clean my rifle before I start putting round down range. I have an AR 5.56 kit and will use Hoppe's #9 solvent and oil. Thanks in advance.
Welcome to the forum and welcome to the fun world of AR rifles
 
Thank you, one and all for the excellent suggestions/ recommendations. Greatly appreciated. I'm taking her to the range this Sunday. Any thoughts on barrel break in procedure? Once again, YouTube is split between yes and not necessary. I want to do right by my saint. I understand barrel break in will give my rifle a longer accurate life, not necessarily just a longer life. Thanks again.
As mentioned by @KillerFord1977 definitely no mag dumps. The first time I shot any of my AR’s I made sure I ran them wet, not dripping oil but enough so it ran smoothly. Next I ran about 20 rounds slowly then let the barrel cool slightly, max 100 rounds then home for a good cleaning. After that I’d put more rounds through it then clean it. Now I run it hard but still wet.
As mentioned everyone has there own way to break in their gun/barrel, go slow keep it clean and well oiled and run your gun.
 
As the others have noted, there's always been -and likely always will be- two 180-degrees-apart and completely opposing schools-of-thought where it comes to the break-in and cleaning/lubrication practices for the service-grade AR15. :)

I don't think that a break-in -or not- will really hurt or necessarily benefit the service-grade AR15 that's destined for either professional (duty) use/defensive use or for action-shooting competition. It's my personal belief that accuracy/precision will depend more on end-user skill and unique ammo -to- unique weapon considerations more than any break-in procedures, in this specific context.

On the other hand, while I certainly wouldn't discourage the end-owner of service-grade AR15s from cleaning and lubricating their firearm, I am of the view that improper lubrication (typically under-lubrication or using the wrong type of lubricant for-conditions) can lead to unnecessary stoppages, and that even more importantly, improper cleaning can truly harm the weapon.

Not maintaining the barrel bore against oxidation or damaging the barrel crown are obviously problematic, but over-cleaning can also lead to problems, and one of the best examples is the bolt tail, where overly aggressive carbon removal (i.e. "scraping") can cause that critical dimension to become undersized over time (through repeated cleanings), leading to issues that arise from gas-inefficiency. In the latest SOTAR BCG "autopsy," as seen below, Chad Albrecht touches on this very concern:


He shows gauging of the bolt tail first, at around the 2:09 time-point, and then he gets back into it at around the 16:20 time-point in the video with an EDM-cut "demo" carrier, to show the "why" behind this "how."

With that in-mind:

Overall, my advice to new AR owners is to approach that AR's maintenance in the context of how they intend to use that rifle.

If your intended use is to hobby-plink frequently or to routinely engage in competition or training classes, cleaning the gun only once a season - provided that it's well-lubricated and protected against corrosion in an appropriate manner between cleanings - would be far from abuse, and can well be considered both typical and sufficient. Look, for example, at the BCM "Filthy 14."


That kind of cleaning schedule (or lack thereof 😅 ) is actually not uncommon among shooters who take the rifle to weekend range sessions, competitions, or training classes on a frequent basis.

Overall, unless your AR is specifically set up as a precision gun, there's no need to treat it as such. Service-grade ARs are resilient and robust.
 
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