I've already told the story how a combat shooting went for me. I was a very good paper puncher but when the shite hit the fan I managed only two hits out of seven shots fired. No doubt I was scared and adrenaline was flowing. I think these factors would probably be in play in a civilian situation as well. How does one train for how he/she might react?
I'm pretty sure I would go for it. Maybe the bad guy can't shoot worth a damn.
The closest we can get without the real thing is to train with high levels of adrenaline. That means getting your heart rate up. A lot of the training I do is done after running. Then shooting moving targets while I am moving to and from "cover or concealment." And lots of yelling or noise. Things that make you uneasy. And everything is timed. Just a little more pressure.
You should start with a pumpkin sized target. Or a steel IDPA sillouhette. Or better yet, a remote controlled, wheeled box/cart with a kevlar vest wearing torso on a pole on it.
A lot of what you say is true. But what's being discussed here is basically a do or die situation. For whatever reason you're caught up in it and you have to act, even at the risk of serious injury or even death.
Gotta protect that ego! Even if it means making fun of actual people who have won gunfights at the highest level. Pretty sure you're already an old man with these boomer vibes you're giving off.
And I’m pretty sure you’re not an actual person who has been in, much less won, gunfights. I think you’re just some rando doing some internet boasting. Like the “ Boogaloo Boys” talking about how if it’s time to hide them it’s time to use them. And what exactly is a gunfight at the highest level ?
), however I did experience the thrill of staring down the barrel of a 4” Python in the hands of a psych patient once, and I can quantitatively state the .357 hole appeared to be about 2.5”
. I practice a pretty decent amount, and have now for several decades. Competition shooting is fun and I’ve got a few Practical Pistol awards that are older than a lot of folks on this forum (early 80’s). I’m not tacticool, and don’t open carry or pack a ton of “cool” stuff with me. The best way to “win” is to avoid getting in a situation to begin with, si I avoid “high risk/high crime areas entirely. I’m not going to Mogadishu, and don’t worry about a herd (flock?) of zombies. I do not do “Mag dumps” to see how fast I can empty my pistol. I do, however put on my pistol when I get up in the morning, and take it off when I go to bed at night. I repeatedly practice quickly putting rounds on 1, 2, or 3 targets spaced apart at varying distances and different angles from 3-25 yards-and only hits count. As Wyatt Earp was quoted “ Speed is fine, but accuracy is final”. A hit with the first or second round will trump a hit on the 10th every single time….
HayesGreener, my sentiments exactly. My heart problem just won't allow me to run and I'm too old to take an *ss kicking. I might die on my feet, but I'll never die on my knees.
This reminds me of an adage I've heard before, "Don't go anywhere with a gun that you wouldn't go without one."
The only problem with that is that if you take it to its logical conclusion I wouldn't go anywhere. Because I don't leave my home unarmed. So for me, I changed it to if I feel like I specifically need a gun to go someplace I probably shouldn't be there.
The neighbors are always paying attention.
I'm positive I've mentioned this before but on my way to work one night while I was getting in my car two guys tried to rob me. On another night while I getting in my car to go to work somebody started shooting at the end of my parking lot. I always pay attention to my surroundings getting into and out of my car
I used to back into parking spots all the time because I thought it would make it easier for me to pull out. My wife always told me that sooner or later somebody was going to hit the front end of my car and disable the vehicle.
Your idea of training is like learning how to do a wheelie before you know how to lean a motorcycle 45 degrees. You're practicing pointless parlor tricks before the fundamentals are cemented. The fact that you think B class is such a hard to attain level of proficiency is extremely telling of how scared you are of your ego getting hurt if we force you to be accountable of hits under time pressure... you know like a gunfight.And I’m pretty sure you’re not an actual person who has been in, much less won, gunfights. I think you’re just some rando doing some internet boasting. Like the “ Boogaloo Boys” talking about how if it’s time to hide them it’s time to use them. And what exactly is a gunfight at the highest level ?
Since you’re the one claiming that all the training pretty much everyone is doing is useless and we should all strive to shoot USPSA at a B class level or else we’re what, fudds???????, how about you post up some evidence of just one well known, respected tactical firearms Instructor making that claim.
Or you could just get back down in your mom’s basement and continue disseminating firearm advice based on your vast experience reading about it on other websites. Like Reddit.
I am an old man though I guess. But definitely not as old as @Old_Me
First of all, I've been shooting since I was about 8 or 9. I'm 55 now. Your assumption that I don't have the fundamental skills is incorrect. I'm certainly not afraid of shooting static targets under pressure of a timer. In fact I do it all the time. and have for decades.
Agree with all of that - I don't leave unarmed either, so it does inform my choice of destinations. I'll go in banks, the post office, and other places that are supposedly gun-free because what they don't know won't hurt them. But one example is, a co-worker (female) and I were at a company event in Mississippi - I think it was Oxford - and we had walked out of the hotel after looking for a place to eat. We followed the directions the front desk staff had given and found ourselves walking away from most of the "lit" area and toward an underpass in which we could see a couple of shadows moving. I was carrying as always, but we looked at each other and said, "Nope - wrong direction." I dang sure wouldn't have gone there unarmed and wasn't going to do it armed, either. We backtracked and found an okay place to eat, but that's the way I interpret the advice above.
