HansGruber
Ronin
Nah; something that doesn’t exist doesn’t bother me a bit.
And if you don’t see the problems in police deciding which laws they will and won’t enforce…we’ll, that speaks volumes.
Does anyone else try
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And if you don’t see the problems in police deciding which laws they will and won’t enforce…we’ll, that speaks volumes.
C. Sumpin
Custom
Read you like a book Hans.........Best........
Bassbob
Emissary
I have to side with Hans on this one. A cop who doesn't enforce the law or who bends it for certain people isn't going to have a job for long. The fact is the police, the prosecutor and my lawyer were all a part of the same system. And in those days that system was biased against handguns. For example, shotguns and rifles in truck racks were common back then. In fact where I live now, which is considerably more rural than where I grew up, it is still a thing. The High School down here closes for the opening week of deer season and it is extremely common for kids to drive to school in their pickup trucks with guns in racks in the back window.
One time when I was about 19 or so a "Friend" of mine was holed up with my girlfriend ( who eventually became my first wife) doing dope. I found out about it, grabbed my shotgun and took off like a bat out of hell over there. On the way I was pulled over by local cops who asked me where I was going with the shotgun. I didn't lie. I told them I was going to kill my buddy Brian. They took my shotgun and told me to come to the station in the morning when I was sober and pick it up. Which I did. My point being it was very much a handgun thing in this state. No one batted an eye over shotguns or rifles.
One time when I was about 19 or so a "Friend" of mine was holed up with my girlfriend ( who eventually became my first wife) doing dope. I found out about it, grabbed my shotgun and took off like a bat out of hell over there. On the way I was pulled over by local cops who asked me where I was going with the shotgun. I didn't lie. I told them I was going to kill my buddy Brian. They took my shotgun and told me to come to the station in the morning when I was sober and pick it up. Which I did. My point being it was very much a handgun thing in this state. No one batted an eye over shotguns or rifles.
There was a recent thread on open carry, so I won’t rehash it, but no…I live in a suburb of blue city in a red state and do not open carry.
Check that other thread.
I’d also add that I concealed carry to protect myself and others, not to make a point. IMHO, “making a point” is a very dangerous endeavor.
C. Sumpin
Custom
In major felony cases of course the LE is bound to follow the law.
But don't kid me.....LE everywhere all the time use their discretion,
on Citations, domestic disputes, drug violations, as to whether to
make a charge or an arrest. Now body cams have perhaps reduced
some of that leeway but even so, if an officer makes an arrest then
there is a charge to answer for, and if the officer makes no arrest or
writes no citation, even if there has been a violation then there is no
case. So LE does bend/show/do favors depending on the situation,
and rarely is there any sanction or loss of employment for it unless
it is a blatant practice with poor judgement calls by the officer which
supervision can not overlook.
And rare it is that if the officer is a buddy/friend/other officer/relative
that in situations where he can he will cut some slack and perhaps not
bring an arrest/charge when he could have.
It might be nice if all LE were of moral character/high integrity to always
follow the letter of the law without ever showing/giving favoritism, but
that my friend is just not human nature or reality.
But don't kid me.....LE everywhere all the time use their discretion,
on Citations, domestic disputes, drug violations, as to whether to
make a charge or an arrest. Now body cams have perhaps reduced
some of that leeway but even so, if an officer makes an arrest then
there is a charge to answer for, and if the officer makes no arrest or
writes no citation, even if there has been a violation then there is no
case. So LE does bend/show/do favors depending on the situation,
and rarely is there any sanction or loss of employment for it unless
it is a blatant practice with poor judgement calls by the officer which
supervision can not overlook.
And rare it is that if the officer is a buddy/friend/other officer/relative
that in situations where he can he will cut some slack and perhaps not
bring an arrest/charge when he could have.
It might be nice if all LE were of moral character/high integrity to always
follow the letter of the law without ever showing/giving favoritism, but
that my friend is just not human nature or reality.
JohnHimes
Operator
I do not open carry a great deal, but I do on occasion around home and the local area. I also carry a 1911. and wearing a cover garment in Texas in August is a royal pain. I live in a rural area , so open carry is a pretty normal thing around here. When I take a trip to Dallas or Houston I'll cover up regardless of the weather. There are far too many idiots in those locals to open carry. I had a person call the police on me in Houston, when they saw my side arm in a store in Houston when my cover garment brushed aside. The Houston Police were very professional and approached me calmly and simply asked if I had a permit. I did, they thanked me and we went about our business.
"I think LE have the latitude to use good judgement on charges or not." - Very accurate statement from what have seen and experienced too C.S.
Some LE are indifferent and simply go through the motions of the profession while some are not and don't enforce certain things for various reasons. As in doing more harm than good for example? - Like the way radios can outrun the fastest vehicle pursuit where others and more damages may be involved.
Much depends on experience, effects, likely different biases, longevity, good judgement and understanding of different scenarios. The same experience can go differently sometimes for many reasons including mood and temperament of all involved. Simply put, good or poor times previously can effect the present situation. Words and warnings can sometimes have better overall effects than some other actions.