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EOTECH EFLX Red Dot Sight (Unboxing)

Just a general question about MOA dots to educate myself: What is the advantage of a 6 MOA dot on a pistol over a 2 or 3 MOA dot? I realize 6 MOA accuracy when shooting 15' is moot on a target (typical SD shooting distance), but if you can get 3 or 6, why buy a 6? Is it advantageous for some to have a bigger dot? I was instructed on variable dots to turn it down as dim as possible as long as you can still see and use it effectively. On those variable-brightness dots, does the MOA change as the dot dims (and gets smaller)? I have a couple RDS, but as you can tell, my experience is limited.

Also apologies if this question was answered in another thread that's 5 years old and I didn't bother to look for it...
 
6 MOA Dot is easier and faster to find in the window, but obscures more of the target, at 25 yards it may be covering more of the center ring...

3 MOA Dot is more accurate, simply because you can see more of the target behind it, but it might take longer to find in the window....

The size of the dot does not change with brightness, at least as far as I am aware on the RDS I know of, but if you turn up the dot intensity to high for the conditions, you'll get glare, so the glare will make it appear bigger to your eye, but it's not....

Being on the older side, I get 6 MOA dots since my eyesight has degraded a bit...
My son gets 3 MOA dots, and we often shoot each other pistols...

He's just as accurate with my 6 MOA and I seem to be able to find the dot quick enough on his 3 MOA...

But I also have concluded the RMR and Vortex Viper are big enough, and don't think I can get any advantage of the bigger window of the DPP, at the same time, the squarer and bigger EFLX does appeal to me and I like it...
 
RickAnderson said:
6 MOA Dot is easier and faster to find in the window, but obscures more of the target, at 25 yards it may be covering more of the center ring...

3 MOA Dot is more accurate, simply because you can see more of the target behind it, but it might take longer to find in the window....

The size of the dot does not change with brightness, at least as far as I am aware on the RDS I know of, but if you turn up the dot intensity to high for the conditions, you'll get glare, so the glare will make it appear bigger to your eye, but it's not....

Being on the older side, I get 6 MOA dots since my eyesight has degraded a bit...
My son gets 3 MOA dots, and we often shoot each other pistols...

He's just as accurate with my 6 MOA and I seem to be able to find the dot quick enough on his 3 MOA...

But I also have concluded the RMR and Vortex Viper are big enough, and don't think I can get any advantage of the bigger window of the DPP, at the same time, the squarer and bigger EFLX does appeal to me and I like it...
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Thanks Rick...you confirmed what I thought to be true, but I hadn't seen anything lately explaining that specifically. Of course I forgot what I had for breakfast yesterday, so thats not saying much about what I've seen recently.
 
Under 25 yards, I believe 5 - 6 moa is good. My 5 moa dot on my SRO is still smaller than my front iron sight. Beyond 25, I’d go 2-3 moa.
 
RickAnderson said:
I ordered an Springfield Armory XD-M Elite OSP in 10mm, still waiting for it to come in so it can go into Maryland Gun Jail for a week after that.
So I noticed the new EOTECH EFLX Red Dot sight are now available, and with their Military Discount nocking it down an additional $75, I ordered one...
I got the 6MOA Dot, there is a version with a 3 MOA dot....
Only comes in black....
It advertises it is sealed and water proof, so no temporarily out of commission because a drop of water fell into the emitter opening...

It came in yesterday....
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What's in the box?
  • The Red Dot (Battery Installed)
  • A Silicone Protective Cover
  • A special tool to open the battery case and adjust the zero
  • In the bag two mounting Torx screws
  • In the bag a Torx Wrench for the screws
Not in the Photo
  • A Manual
  • A Warranty Card
  • A Registration Card
  • An EOTECH Decal
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The Sight itself
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The screws are the exact correct length to fit the XD-M Optics Mount Plate and not extend past the plate....
The Vortex and some Trijicon (usually the screws that come with the mount plate, not the sight itself) are too long and require filing or cutting down...
It has a top load battery, 25k to 20k battery life (lower for the bigger 6 MOA dot), and a feature to switch to always on until turned off or set an auto 12 hr shut off...
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How big is it?
I have still not seen a spec on the window size...
I measure it at .72" tall and .94" wide, to put it within 1/100" surface area of the Deltapoint Pro, it is more square than the DPP. The DPP being .68" tall and 1.01" wide.

Compared to a Trijicon RMR
External Dimensions, its the same length and .1" taller and wider than the RMR
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But notice, the base of the EFLX is taller than the RMR, more on that later...
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The EFLX measures and looks bigger and more square as well...

Compared to a Leupold Deltapoint Pro
External Dimensions, its .3" shorter and .1" taller and .1" narrower than the DPP, so pretty much the same size window in a smaller package...
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The Base of EFLX is slightly shorter than the DPP, which is notorious for being too tall for even suppressor height sights to co-witness...
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Windows about the same size (by height x width, the EFLX is .01 sq in smaller) but the squarer EFLX window looks better to me...
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Eotech makes quality products for sure. But.... Yes there is a but... 😂
I choose the Holosun optics for pistol mounted optics. They have better reticles, shake awake, and solar powered for most models.

 
I put an EFLX on my Desert Eagle .50AE, which is quite a lot of recoil to say the least.
I've only shot it once so far, but have notice the EFLX was dimming the dot after several shots and I had to manual brighten it again. We'll see if this continues.

No sign of trouble on my XD-M 10mm. No loss of zero on the Desert Eagle, just the dimming after severe recoil.
 
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