Full House: Top Ten 10mm Handguns
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Hammer67
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How so? In terms of how it's sprung? Or something else?
AIRB0RNE6176
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I've noticed mine has a bit more recoil impulse when shooting the 220gr rockets. Certainly more than the X-Ten or G20 in regards to striker-fired polymer 10mm pistols shooting hardcast ammo.
I'm thinking the PC model with it's longer compensated barrel and slide (w/ the slightly increased weight over the 4.6"(EDITED) model PLUS the frame mounted TLR-1HL) should provide some reduced felt and perceived recoil.
Haven't looked at any possible spring or guide rod swaps on this one... (yet).
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Hammer67
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I've noticed mine has a bit more recoil impulse when shooting the 220gr rockets. Certainly more than the X-Ten or G20 in regards to striker-fired polymer 10mm pistols shooting hardcast ammo.
I'm thinking the PC model with it's longer compensated barrel and slide (w/ the slightly increased weight over the 4.2" model PLUS the frame mounted TLR-1HL) should provide some reduced felt and perceived recoil.
Haven't looked at any possible spring or guide rod swaps on this one... (yet).
Cool. I would say that my M&P 4.6" was definitely sprung too light out of the box for the full-power Underwood loads I was running through it, and I was getting slide slam. I swapped in a Wolff stainless steel guide rod and #20 recoil spring and now it runs great, and feels sprung appropriately, while not being oversprung when running 'standard' 10mm target loads. If I was running full-power loads exclusively in the M&P, then I'd probably step up to a #22 spring, but the #20 seems like the best all-around compromise.
One thing I've observed, shooting both the 200gr and 220gr LFNs from Underwood is that the 220s had noticeably more kick to them, but ballistically there really wasn't much of a difference at all (694 M.E. vs 704 M.E). I find the 200gr version to be more controllable for faster follow-up shots.
AIRB0RNE6176
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Meant to say " 4.6" " in previous post, so edited/corrected now.
I'll give the Wolff setup a try first to see if it'll help me out as much. It's worth a shot as an easy swap out and it's a lesser strain on the wallet. That is unless I can find a good deal on the PC model...
I'll give the Wolff setup a try first to see if it'll help me out as much. It's worth a shot as an easy swap out and it's a lesser strain on the wallet. That is unless I can find a good deal on the PC model...
AIRB0RNE6176, how would you rate/compare the 10mm 1911's you have? And the SIG 220 vs the 1911's if you had to choose between the 220 and 1911 in 10mm which would you give the win to?
AIRB0RNE6176
Alpha
Of the 1911's that I have, I'd place the Dan Wesson in 1st, then the Kimber in 2nd, and followed closely by the SIG in 3rd. Each of my three are awesome 10mm shooters, but the Specialist is just a work of art. Nothing against the Kimber or SIG, as they are both fine as well.
And between a P220 (Legion SAO, mind you) and a good 1911 in 10mm, I'd give the slight nod to my SIG for the red dot as well as being a bit less complex for maintenance. I may have my 1911 slides milled for a dot somewhere down the road, but I don't have a need to just yet. The trigger on a good 1911 is unmatched however, so there's that point.
And between a P220 (Legion SAO, mind you) and a good 1911 in 10mm, I'd give the slight nod to my SIG for the red dot as well as being a bit less complex for maintenance. I may have my 1911 slides milled for a dot somewhere down the road, but I don't have a need to just yet. The trigger on a good 1911 is unmatched however, so there's that point.
tapehoser
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Longtime lover of the 10mm. When my old gunsmith buddy was teaching me how to reload and how to read ballistic charts in the back of Nosler manuals, I came to the realization that there weren't many concealable semi-auto cartridges or handguns that were better than 10mm. Glock 29 is my daily carry, and I love it. Shoots like a dream.