GM orders to stop selling new pick up trucks

[Old_Me]

this is very disturbing...i had 2 new chevy trucks in my life, and i thought they were great.

and no, please..no....... "which truck brand is better" debates..

cuz deep down, we all know that would go to Toyota....

but this is crazy stupid........

MSN

 

[USMC6094]

The Slow Joe Administration at work

 

[HansGruber]

The Slow Joe Administration at work

Yeah. That’s the reason the trucks are having structural failures.

Good grief.

 

[USMC6094]

Yeah. That’s the reason the trucks are having structural failures.

Good grief.

Light'n up will ya, the aluminum F150 ain't no award winner either, yeash take a powder....

 

[nmedge]

At least they caught it before something really stupid happened. I wonder what else is wrong with them. That's what happens when you pay them more money--they get lazy!

 

[USMC6094]

It's about dollar signs and keeping the UAW happy, nevermind the people buying the product, or their safety.

 

[HansGruber]

It's about dollar signs and keeping the UAW happy, nevermind the people buying the product, or their safety.

Or it’s about a mistake in the design that hadn’t been caught in development.

Not everything is about politics, y’know?

 

[Bassbob]

Or it’s because trucks and vehicles in general are pieces of crap that cost ten times as much as they should these days.

 

[Belt Fed]

A manufacture defect and oversight on quality control, They all do it. anything that is mass produced will have trouble at some time. especially one that requires so many steps to produce.

I don't care what make it is or where it is made, it will eventually happen, a well managed QC dept. will cut back on it but even they can't see all failures coming that was designed by engineers that never have to work on one and don't care how hard it is to work on one. just design it get it approved and roll with it.

Engineers that design some of these vehicle's suck, no reason for some of the crap mechanics have to go through to do simple servicing like having to pull and engine to change the oil or putting a starter under an intake manifold.

 

[nmedge]

Correct Belt Fed, they ALL have issues! I was in the business for 20 years and the general public only knows half of the bs that goes on. It's about engineering mistakes and the mighty dollar to correct those issues. Its not political just monetary.

 

[nmedge]

I remember when brand new Ford F250's were spitting out fire and smoke out the exhaust pipes! They didn't even have 100 miles on them. Fixed that issue then the transmissions gave out. GM also had issues with diesels. The list is long!

 

[Belt Fed]

IMO Cummins is the best diesel engine but even they had their defects, the infamous number 53 block was one of them and the killer dowel pin.

 

[TEXASforLIFE]

ALL diesel engines in pickups are junk (yes, that includes my '15 3500)! No engine trouble @ 75k, but still junk! I'd give anything for a good ole big block! My '81 454 turbo400 w/3.73 got better milage than this p/u.

 

[Belt Fed]

my 2000 Cummins has nearly 300,000 on it, when i had normal tires on it, it got nearly 20 MPG on the freeway. just sold a Ford f250 4x4 5 speed stick with a 460. it got 8 MPG going down a steep hill with a strong wind at it back.

When i bought the 2000, diesel was a lot cheaper than gas and got better mileage than gas trucks, well the EPA has killed diesels on fuel mileage and it's more expensive than gas now. all of them are way overpriced.

 

[TEXASforLIFE]

my 2000 Cummins has nearly 300,000 on it, when i had normal tires on it, it got nearly 20 MPG on the freeway. just sold a Ford f250 4x4 5 speed stick with a 460. it got 8 MPG going down a steep hill with a strong wind at it back.

When i bought the 2000, diesel was a lot cheaper than gas and got better mileage than gas trucks, well the EPA has killed diesels on fuel mileage and it's more expensive than gas now. all of them are way overpriced.

Just be glad they finally added turbos! The life blood and heart of diesels! When the big 3 started putting diesels in their p/us I knew fuel was going to get high! The stupid thing what price is for red (off road/farm/equipment diesel). It sucks for farmers buying that

 

[Belt Fed]

I'd like to drive a new one and see how much more power they have, my 2015 has twice the power of the 2000. i don't ever plan on buying another one though. will die with what i have now. no way i'm payin 70 to 100 grand for a truck.

 

[belladonna]

I'd like to drive a new one and see how much more power they have, my 2015 has twice the power of the 2000. i don't ever plan on buying another one though. will die with what i have now. no way i'm payin 70 to 100 grand for a truck.

The mister paid in the range of 60k for his Duramax(80k list price). He gets on average about 20MPG depending on the wind (better with no gusts). He’s gonna drone it till it drops. It’s a 2021 Sierra Duramax. Ordered it during the pandemic. It’s an awesome road trip vehicle.

 

[Blackfeather]

The price of all new rucks is insane, buying pre-owned is the more fiscally responsible way to buy a truck.

 

[nmedge]

Who can afford to purchase a brand new pickup---gas or diesel!

 

[Bassbob]

ALL diesel engines in pickups are junk (yes, that includes my '15 3500)! No engine trouble @ 75k, but still junk! I'd give anything for a good ole big block! My '81 454 turbo400 w/3.73 got better milage than this p/u.

eh, the 7.3 International "Power Stroke" in my 96 F-350 was certainly not junk.

On the other hand the 250 horse Cats in the Freightliners we drive at work are garbage.