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gov employees (congress etc) freaking over an audit

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Let me say i feel vindicated and HAPPY as a clam US aid is being audited along with hopefully every office in the federal government
i will also say a former government employee and contractor......every time i was involved in an audit or inspection of a command or entity and they were cagey.....we found stuff that curled your hair, no to mention wasteful and potentially criminal.

when they were forthright with documents requested and all that...we usually only found minor issues that could be corrected on the spot with no need to lop off the heads in charge.

USAID has always been in my lifetime a shady place for sneaky government business that other areas cannot tread...I.E, influencing elections in foreign lands just for one... CIA dark money for TWO..

the company i worked for as a contractor got fined by department of state for hmmm helping out with an election in a foreign land at the behest of USAID, via state department request of the influence actions. we got fined, punished, admonished etc, it even cost our employer future contracts for xxxx years, not to mention loss of trustworthiness displayed upon the employees by others.

finally all the chicanery might come to light on how money is funneled and LIED about into USAID by various gov agencies to get others to do their bidding, legal or otherwise

now seeing members of congress loosing their collective minds over OMG wasteful or corrupt spending tells us everything
maybe the office of efficiency will audit congress and expose the tax free, HUGE DISCOUNTED liquor store and tobacco store members of congress set up...

hopefully the money is tracked back to payoffs to congress and we get some more MENENDEZ type convictions
rant over
i feel good again
headed to the range
 
SaltyMonkey said:
I believe I heard it best from Dr Phil. “People who have nothing to hide , hide nothing.”
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Nah, they hide it all the time. Think 4th Amendment. My response would be "pound sand" 100% of the time unless there's something like a warrant or threat of termination compelling me. My business is no one else's, no matter how mundane.
 
benstt said:
Nah, they hide it all the time. Think 4th Amendment. My response would be "pound sand" 100% of the time unless there's something like a warrant or threat of termination compelling me. My business is no one else's, no matter how mundane.
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Just because “ they do it all the time” or that’s how’s it’s always been doesn’t make it right. It’s our tax dollars and it appears they have been very poor stewards of our money. We are all held to account by someone else. Don’t think so?
Tell the IRS to pound sand and see what happens.
I pay a ridiculous amount every year and for what I pay I want to know where my money is spent and hear no lip about it.
 
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SaltyMonkey said:
Just because “ they do it all the time” or that’s how’s it’s always been doesn’t make it right. It’s our tax dollars and it appears they have been very poor stewards of our money. We are all held to account by someone else. Don’t think so?
Tell the IRS to pound sand and see what happens.
I pay a ridiculous amount every year and for what I pay I want to know where my money is spent and hear no lip about it.
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Ok, so a cop or someone walks up and tells you to go get your bank records with no warrant or legal authority and you'd just do it because you have nothing to hide? On a personal level, yes. Pound sand. On a company level, yes. Pound sand. To me considering this is unfettered access to government systems, including the ones with my information on it by an unelected person/group with no authority or oversight, yes. I want those agencies to tell DOGE and Elon to pound sand. Come back with authority from Congress and oversight so we know what that nutter is taking and accessing when his people plug into federal computers.
 
I'm a Gubment employee, and I'm not freaking out.

I'm waiting with baited breath to see all the useless things my taxes have been spent on......

And I'm a DOD critical employee to boot, so rest assured, the BIG Gubment bull$#!+, is well and truly above my pay grade.

At this point I'm looking forward to the show.
 
There is a difference between private citizens and Public servants at a Government tax payer funded office.
Don’t conflate the two.
So let me get this straight you’re upset that an unelected bureaucrat appointed by the executive branch wants to audit other unelected bureaucrats spending government tax payer money?
Congress is in large part of the problem.
They along with other executive branch have allowed this for far too long .
Again, as a public servant, if they have nothing to hide, then they’ll hide nothing. The fact that they’re throwing such a fit speaks volumes.
I expect full and complete transparency from my government that is taking my taxpayer dollars.
 
SaltyMonkey said:
There is a difference between private citizens and Public servants at a Government tax payer funded office.
Don’t conflate the two.
So let me get this straight you’re upset that an unelected bureaucrat appointed by the executive branch wants to audit other unelected bureaucrats spending government tax payer money?
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I agree completely with you, but it made me laugh...
 
SaltyMonkey said:
There is a difference between private citizens and Public servants at a Government tax payer funded office.
Don’t conflate the two.
So let me get this straight you’re upset that an unelected bureaucrat appointed by the executive branch wants to audit other unelected bureaucrats spending government tax payer money?
Congress is in large part of the problem.
They along with other executive branch have allowed this for far too long .
Again, as a public servant, if they have nothing to hide, then they’ll hide nothing. The fact that they’re throwing such a fit speaks volumes.
I expect full and complete transparency from my government that is taking my taxpayer dollars.
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Yes, I object to that. Don't add "upset", it twists the position. He has no oversight from what i can see. None. As public servants they have everything to hide, such as your information and mine, confidential information, State secrets, etc. Try telling me the 19 year old kids they have running up in the treasury or what have you have clearances. Go get congressional approval to start the agency, and set oversight and assurances data is protected then there will be some legitimacy. I say "some" because congress is nothing more than lickspittles do do whatever donald says. That Elon thinks he has authority to shutter anything is absurd. Only Congress can close an agency it opened.

Expecting full transparency is a very dangerous expectation. Loose lips sink ships and all that. Your tax money is almost certainly going to pay for intelligence assets in very unfriendly parts of the globe. No chance should the general populace, given Americans are not a critical thinking people, have access to anything touching that.
 
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I should add there are federal laws, like HIPAA and the Federal Data Privacy Act, that regulate what can be accessed and by whom. A presidential appointee doesn't get around the law by virtue of that appointment. Elon's people go get a swath of your health records without your authorization? That's a legal problem and one that needs to be guarded against. Especial with someone like that guy. Smart thought he may be, dude is not right in the head.
 
benstt said:
I should add there are federal laws, like HIPAA and the Federal Data Privacy Act, that regulate what can be accessed and by whom. A presidential appointee doesn't get around the law by virtue of that appointment. Elon's people go get a swath of your health records without your authorization? That's a legal problem and one that needs to be guarded against. Especial with someone like that guy. Smart thought he may be, dude is not right in the head.
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correct
but so far, his group went to treasury to see where the BIG UNCLE has been spending OUR money
good thing US AID is not a human? USPS should be on the short list as well
sorry i just had to :ROFLMAO:
 
USMC6094 said:
I'm a Gubment employee, and I'm not freaking out.

I'm waiting with baited breath to see all the useless things my taxes have been spent on......

And I'm a DOD critical employee to boot, so rest assured, the BIG Gubment bull$#!+, is well and truly above my pay grade.

At this point I'm looking forward to the show.
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I'm a federal employee myself. I love what's happening. I'm DOD myself, specifically The Department of the Army. At first, we all thought the buyout thing didn't apply to any of us. But apparently, we do qualify. Just about all of my upper management is taking advantage of it. But they are all close to retirement anyway. They are getting out while the getting is good. I was asked if I was going to do it, but I'm not. I already have my paperwork going through the system for disability retirement. If they can't find me another position under a reasonable accommodation, then I can take the disability retirement, which is a lot better deal than what is being offered, at least in my case.
 
My former federal agency was initially founded in 1947 to combat widespread fraud and misappropriation of money and capital assets. What I learned over the years in most of the fraud cases I saw was that most of the fraud was possible due to a failure to audit expenditures. The chief executive can order an audit of expenditures at any time he so desires. Surprise audits are especially useful to expose fraud and abuse. It is a primary duty of the executive to know where our money is going. I have always known we have wasted a lot of money, but it really pi＄＄es me off to see some of the trivial B.S. USAID is spending our tax doĺlars on. They are just warming up, go DOGE go!
 
powerboatr said:
correct
but so far, his group went to treasury to see where the BIG UNCLE has been spending OUR money
good thing US AID is not a human? USPS should be on the short list as well
sorry i just had to :ROFLMAO:
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A federal judge has a case before her in which it is alleged DOGE people accessed taxpayer SSNs, addresses, and bank account numbers. That's really, really bad. I disagree it has to be done, and definitely the way its being done. contractors aren't new but the work needs to be done legally, and there need to be robust data protections.
 
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