I can’t trust that the finger placement in a high stress situation will be there...I like a gun that will perform % of the time regardless of how much one practices. I shoot 500-1000 rounds a month out of my Springfield 45, my Brownings 380 and 9, my Colt 357, and yes several 22 pistols (why .22’s you wonder, have you bought ammo lately?) combined and know plenty about trigger placement and control. Despite what many on the Forums say about how one should practice, I think that after 50 plus years and probably half a million rounds fired at a range as a shooter competitively, instructing, pleasure, and hunting I know how important trigger placement is and have an idea if a trigger is not functioning correctly.
Looking at the Apex trigger safety it’s apparent how the issue is solved via the insertion of a increased size safety release. Problem solved. Seems Springfield will follow shortly or accept and honor a warranty of their product with a modified Apex trigger. The legality of warranty acceptance by Springfield (although looking at Apex’s video on replacing the trigger is fairly simple) will probably be that the trigger must be installed by them or a certified gunsmith.
I realize that triggers are made like some caps that “One Size Fits All” but not all fingers are the same size. $600 for a gun that for now I can’t trust is a lot of money to pay. I’d recommend folks to buy the Springfield Hellcat once Springfield accepts that there might be a design issue with the functionality of the trigger and get things resolved but for now, for me, the Hellcat not a safe CCW.
If you want a firearm of similar size, weight, capacity, and reliability and I include RELIABILITY on the Springfield line because the Springfield line of pistols are reliable and don’t have the trigger issues the Hellcat is suffering for now and maybe it is something as simple as a production run but they are great guns, then you might entertain something similar with a manual safety. There are a few out there of equal carry capacity, weight, and size. Only difference is if you’re going to add optics it’s going to cost more. My Hellcat is a Hellcat OSP. However being an open sights and laser shooter, I was planning on not adding optics to the Hellcat. Optics make a gun look cool but being used to open sights target acquisition and laser operations I think, for me, that’s the route to go.
Maybe the Apex triggered Hellcat will work but having to do that is like buying a new vehicle and having to change the gas pedal (although most gas pedals now are electronic) to a different one because the OEM pedal sticks when depressed or doesn’t engage when depressed so the car hesitates or stalls completely on acceleration. In traffic that is a bad thing. I’m sure one would be at the dealership ASAP trying to resolve the issue. Can you imagine the dealership telling you, or like on the Springfield Amory Forum their are some folks saying “you just need to practice more and/or get used to it”? I’d wager these same folks, having an automobile accelerator that hesitated or stuck when depressing the pedal, would be screaming the loudest at a dealership in such an instance.
Anyway folk that’s just my opinion and unlike what’s going on in our current political atmosphere of shutting down free speech, thinking, or opinions, I believe everyone’s input here should be directed not to each other but to the folks producing the product. Information is great knowledge when making a decision to make a purchase and especially so if a life, injury, or death could be involved by not know there are issues with a product. Minimally it make you aware of an issue and allows one to compensate.
Like right after 9-11 what was the battle cry? “If you see something wrong, say something!”.
All in all this input will only serve to make an already great product even better.
Again, my Hellcat is a Hellcat OSP. I know I’ve read that some non OSP HC owners are not having issues so maybe there’s a model differences issue.
Looking at the Apex trigger safety it’s apparent how the issue is solved via the insertion of a increased size safety release. Problem solved. Seems Springfield will follow shortly or accept and honor a warranty of their product with a modified Apex trigger. The legality of warranty acceptance by Springfield (although looking at Apex’s video on replacing the trigger is fairly simple) will probably be that the trigger must be installed by them or a certified gunsmith.
I realize that triggers are made like some caps that “One Size Fits All” but not all fingers are the same size. $600 for a gun that for now I can’t trust is a lot of money to pay. I’d recommend folks to buy the Springfield Hellcat once Springfield accepts that there might be a design issue with the functionality of the trigger and get things resolved but for now, for me, the Hellcat not a safe CCW.
If you want a firearm of similar size, weight, capacity, and reliability and I include RELIABILITY on the Springfield line because the Springfield line of pistols are reliable and don’t have the trigger issues the Hellcat is suffering for now and maybe it is something as simple as a production run but they are great guns, then you might entertain something similar with a manual safety. There are a few out there of equal carry capacity, weight, and size. Only difference is if you’re going to add optics it’s going to cost more. My Hellcat is a Hellcat OSP. However being an open sights and laser shooter, I was planning on not adding optics to the Hellcat. Optics make a gun look cool but being used to open sights target acquisition and laser operations I think, for me, that’s the route to go.
Maybe the Apex triggered Hellcat will work but having to do that is like buying a new vehicle and having to change the gas pedal (although most gas pedals now are electronic) to a different one because the OEM pedal sticks when depressed or doesn’t engage when depressed so the car hesitates or stalls completely on acceleration. In traffic that is a bad thing. I’m sure one would be at the dealership ASAP trying to resolve the issue. Can you imagine the dealership telling you, or like on the Springfield Amory Forum their are some folks saying “you just need to practice more and/or get used to it”? I’d wager these same folks, having an automobile accelerator that hesitated or stuck when depressing the pedal, would be screaming the loudest at a dealership in such an instance.
Anyway folk that’s just my opinion and unlike what’s going on in our current political atmosphere of shutting down free speech, thinking, or opinions, I believe everyone’s input here should be directed not to each other but to the folks producing the product. Information is great knowledge when making a decision to make a purchase and especially so if a life, injury, or death could be involved by not know there are issues with a product. Minimally it make you aware of an issue and allows one to compensate.
Like right after 9-11 what was the battle cry? “If you see something wrong, say something!”.
All in all this input will only serve to make an already great product even better.
Again, my Hellcat is a Hellcat OSP. I know I’ve read that some non OSP HC owners are not having issues so maybe there’s a model differences issue.