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I just saw a Hellion without an extendable stock for sale at a gun store. It’s just a buttcap with a rubber end. Is this normal for new guns?
Are you sure the stock wasn't extendable?

The lever to extend the stock is right here. You squeeze and it's spring loaded so it will push out on its own.

The stock may have been already fully extended but unlike an AR stock the spring loaded Hellion will give some resistance pushing in back in.

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Are you sure the stock wasn't extendable?

The lever to extend the stock is right here. You squeeze and it's spring loaded so it will push out on its own.

The stock may have been already fully extended but unlike an AR stock the spring loaded Hellion will give some resistance pushing in back in.

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Nope, it’s a cap with a rubber pad.
 

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Nope, it’s a cap with a rubber pad.
Wow that's different and disappointing.

I'm guessing that's probably a neutered version for blue states. I wouldn't be surprised if the muzzle device is pinned and welded also.

The QD cup is also missing from that stock.

I wonder how the non adjustable stock plays into breaking the rifle down considering the BCG pulls out from the stock.
 
Wow that's different and disappointing.

I'm guessing that's probably a neutered version for blue states. I wouldn't be surprised if the muzzle device is pinned and welded also.

The QD cup is also missing from that stock.

I wonder how the non adjustable stock plays into breaking the rifle down considering the BCG pulls out from the stock.
It breaks down as normal.

I just was talking to some others on another site and they were saying this is how they are shipped from Croatia. With a weird handgrip that’s tucked into the frame.

I don’t think the extendable stock will do anything for neutered state legalities.

Flash suppressor is normal.

I think it may have passed through SA QC without the appropriate stock. If that’s the case it’s probably a rare bird in private hands.
 
Perhaps a call to Springfield customer service is in order. I've had to deal with them and their CS is second to none. Just my two cents.
 
It breaks down as normal.

I just was talking to some others on another site and they were saying this is how they are shipped from Croatia. With a weird handgrip that’s tucked into the frame.

I don’t think the extendable stock will do anything for neutered state legalities.

Flash suppressor is normal.

I think it may have passed through SA QC without the appropriate stock. If that’s the case it’s probably a rare bird in private hands.
Some states don't allow easily adjustable stocks. In Massachusetts stocks on semi autos need to be locked and only adjustable with a tool.
 
If you are in the market for a Hellion they are definitely worth the cost. I have a Burris RT-1 RDS mounted on mine and shooting steel targets out to 200yds with the Hellion is like cheating. It's very accurate and reliable with all the ammo I tested so far including Tulammo steel .223

I did have a few feed failures with Red Army Standard though.

I have roughly 1000 rounds through my rifle now with about 70% brass cased and 30% steel cased
 
If you are in the market for a Hellion they are definitely worth the cost. I have a Burris RT-1 RDS mounted on mine and shooting steel targets out to 200yds with the Hellion is like cheating. It's very accurate and reliable with all the ammo I tested so far including Tulammo steel .223

I did have a few feed failures with Red Army Standard though.
I ended up buying it. $1700 plus some change. I have a strike eagle 1-8 that will go it.

I don’t have any steel cased 5.56.

Hopefully some aftermarket support will be coming. A new trigger box would be fanastic.
 
My LGS currently has 1 Hellion in-stock

 
I ended up buying it. $1700 plus some change. I have a strike eagle 1-8 that will go it.

I don’t have any steel cased 5.56.
I shoot steel occasionally in a few different firearms.

It's a great cost savings and I haven't seen any downside to the accuracy or reliability.

There's the myth that steel cased ammo is bad for your firearms but that has been debunked over and over with plenty of testers shooting thousands of rounds of steel vs brass and seeing no difference in wear or erosion between the two types.

Some firearms won't cycle certain steel cased ammo though. I've found 9mm steel cased won't cycle properly through a Sig 365 and in my Ruger LC9 it won't even chamber.
 
I shoot steel occasionally in a few different firearms.

It's a great cost savings and I haven't seen any downside to the accuracy or reliability.

There's the myth that steel cased ammo is bad for your firearms but that has been debunked over and over with plenty of testers shooting thousands of rounds of steel vs brass and seeing no difference in wear or erosion between the two types.

Some firearms won't cycle certain steel cased ammo though. I've found 9mm steel cased won't cycle properly through a Sig 365 and in my Ruger LC9 it won't even chamber.
I have enough brass cased 5.56 to last for awhile. I even have brasses cased 7.62x39 that I squirreled away when they available from South Africa years ago.
 
I have enough brass cased 5.56 to last for awhile. I even have brasses cased 7.62x39 that I squirreled away when they available from South Africa years ago.
The south African brass 7.62x39 was probably a great score!

I have plenty of freedom seeds on hand myself but I still pickup ammo regularly when I see a deal because I'm at the range at least once or twice a week. I expend a lot of lead down range so I try and save $ when I can.
 
I ended up buying it. $1700 plus some change. I have a strike eagle 1-8 that will go it.

I don’t have any steel cased 5.56.

Hopefully some aftermarket support will be coming. A new trigger box would be fanastic.
It maybe worth a call to Springfield Customer service to see if that rifle was meant to have a fixed stock. They may send you out the collapsible stock if it wasn't supposed to be shipped that way.
 
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