Are you sure the stock wasn't extendable?I just saw a Hellion without an extendable stock for sale at a gun store. It’s just a buttcap with a rubber end. Is this normal for new guns?
Nope, it’s a cap with a rubber pad.Are you sure the stock wasn't extendable?
The lever to extend the stock is right here. You squeeze and it's spring loaded so it will push out on its own.
The stock may have been already fully extended but unlike an AR stock the spring loaded Hellion will give some resistance pushing in back in.
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Wow that's different and disappointing.Nope, it’s a cap with a rubber pad.
It breaks down as normal.Wow that's different and disappointing.
I'm guessing that's probably a neutered version for blue states. I wouldn't be surprised if the muzzle device is pinned and welded also.
The QD cup is also missing from that stock.
I wonder how the non adjustable stock plays into breaking the rifle down considering the BCG pulls out from the stock.
Some states don't allow easily adjustable stocks. In Massachusetts stocks on semi autos need to be locked and only adjustable with a tool.It breaks down as normal.
I just was talking to some others on another site and they were saying this is how they are shipped from Croatia. With a weird handgrip that’s tucked into the frame.
I don’t think the extendable stock will do anything for neutered state legalities.
Flash suppressor is normal.
I think it may have passed through SA QC without the appropriate stock. If that’s the case it’s probably a rare bird in private hands.
I agree but in this case it makes it longer! Not shorter! And the LOP is atrocious as it is.Some states don't allow easily adjustable stocks. In Massachusetts stocks on semi autos need to be locked and only adjustable with a tool.
I ended up buying it. $1700 plus some change. I have a strike eagle 1-8 that will go it.If you are in the market for a Hellion they are definitely worth the cost. I have a Burris RT-1 RDS mounted on mine and shooting steel targets out to 200yds with the Hellion is like cheating. It's very accurate and reliable with all the ammo I tested so far including Tulammo steel .223
I did have a few feed failures with Red Army Standard though.
I shoot steel occasionally in a few different firearms.I ended up buying it. $1700 plus some change. I have a strike eagle 1-8 that will go it.
I don’t have any steel cased 5.56.
I have enough brass cased 5.56 to last for awhile. I even have brasses cased 7.62x39 that I squirreled away when they available from South Africa years ago.I shoot steel occasionally in a few different firearms.
It's a great cost savings and I haven't seen any downside to the accuracy or reliability.
There's the myth that steel cased ammo is bad for your firearms but that has been debunked over and over with plenty of testers shooting thousands of rounds of steel vs brass and seeing no difference in wear or erosion between the two types.
Some firearms won't cycle certain steel cased ammo though. I've found 9mm steel cased won't cycle properly through a Sig 365 and in my Ruger LC9 it won't even chamber.
The south African brass 7.62x39 was probably a great score!I have enough brass cased 5.56 to last for awhile. I even have brasses cased 7.62x39 that I squirreled away when they available from South Africa years ago.
Thank you! Glad to be here.@ARDOC welcome to the forum from NH.
It maybe worth a call to Springfield Customer service to see if that rifle was meant to have a fixed stock. They may send you out the collapsible stock if it wasn't supposed to be shipped that way.I ended up buying it. $1700 plus some change. I have a strike eagle 1-8 that will go it.
I don’t have any steel cased 5.56.
Hopefully some aftermarket support will be coming. A new trigger box would be fanastic.