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Holsters and why you choose that 1!

Over the last decade or so, the old "drop leg (thigh)" configuration has lost favor -as have "sub loads" - due mainly to the double-bogey of lack of stability (the rig would shift and not stay in-place consistently) and lack of ability to retain comfort (chafing from loosening during high-effort and/or long-duration movement) without constant adjustments/input by the end-user. You'll see a lot of previous-generation rigs offered with two quick-adjust -later often elasticized- thigh straps in the attempt to overcome the way that all of our thighs are shaped: conical. End-users of these setups also sometimes complained of the added weight of these rigs (often pistol+spare mags or other accessories on the holster or a 4x20 or 30-round AR15 magazine sub-load) subjectively decreasing their perceived footspeed or mobility (vehicles or other confined spaces - that said, this was a compromise for being able to access the weapon while seated, so there's a bit of pro/con here ;) ).


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The reason why such a low-riding setup came into being -in this context- was due to the need to physically "drop" that loadout to clear previous-generation "turtle-shell" armor. Dropping the sidearm that far was really the only way to get an interference-free draw. Once this was exchanged in favor of more anatomical and lighter-weight modern concealable armor and/or modern plate carriers, we see what's favored now, with a higher mounting point that's actually more ergonomic. Compared to the drop-thigh rig of yore, modern rigs present the grip at or just below the shooter's waistline, and typically utilize just one strap, worn high at the hip/crotch, if-any, to offer additional stability.

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With the holster actually anchored by the belt, there's virtually none of the pendulum effect seen with the older, lower setup. Additionally, the shooter's index for the draw is now consistent - versus a moving target that offers varying in presentation on his/her thigh as they are moving around.

I was an avid airsoft collector and skirmish gamer in the late 90s, and among other gear were the dual-strap Safariland 6004 and HSGI Drop Leg, and they both demonstrated the above shortcomings.

I currently do not utilize a drop setup with my war-belt mounted OWB holster, even for classes that require armor (i.e. site legality/liability requirements) as my armor does not interfere with my strong-side holster and as I specifically want to keep my OWB setup as close to my IWB setup as possible to allow for cross-training. That said, @TEXASforLIFE , you'll find a lot of good offerings if you used the search terms "offset drop" or just "drop" in a Google search, in combination with the word "holster."

When you do, you'll see that Blade Tech (Drop and Offset - in varying lengths to suit end-user anatomy), Safariland (DFA/UFA, or specific models, such as their Model 6360 ALS/SLS Mid-Ride Level III), and G-Code (RTI/standard Optimal Pistol Drop Platform) all offer what are known-good-to-go platforms. Similarly, a lot of individual holster makers offer their own unique systems (e.g. the KT-Mech KT SP Plate Drop Leg, the DARA Drop/Off Set, or the Raven Concealment Drop/Offset kit, which is compatible with both their modern thermoplastic holsters as well as their legacy Kydex Phantoms).
 
Still 1 question hasn't been answered! Why do you like the choice you made?

I wanted to come back and clarify regarding my previous - https://www.thearmorylife.com/forum...hy-you-choose-that-1.10219/page-2#post-135415

I should note that I also tried offset/dropping my RCS Phantom when I first set up my armor. While I was objectively faster, I decided against it as using that setup would mean that I was training towards two separate systems. Given my limited training/practice time, I just couldn't justify it to myself.
 
For self-defense I have different pistols (full-sized to micro) that require different holsters based on different carry conditions, and needs.

^ I cheat - I'm that "one gun" guy. Ten-thousand repeats of the same, simple kick.

I've found that -objectively- I just can't maintain the same level of competency across platforms and techniques...so I try to pare down as much as possible.

"Not enough processor speed" is the story of my life. 😅
 
I can only carry drop leg type on premises (Texas doesn't allow). I don't have any armor, but do have load out rigs/best. I only attach drop or thigh rigs via separate belt. I carried a 50ae all day with minimal issues, that only being denim jeans aren't tight fitting and I have good sized quads and thighs. Physique can play decision making. As long as I have even load I can carry all day without being tired or over exerted. When holsters aren't split front or semi open the higher draw hurts me. Maybe the compact (4"barrel) without any added muzzle device will make things less hurtful? Pain pisses me off and if a stressful situation occurs I need too be in as less pain as I can! I handle emotional situations well, but haven't been in any shooting situations. Life or death situations, yes.
 
I can only carry drop leg type on premises (Texas doesn't allow). I don't have any armor, but do have load out rigs/best. I only attach drop or thigh rigs via separate belt. I carried a 50ae all day with minimal issues, that only being denim jeans aren't tight fitting and I have good sized quads and thighs. Physique can play decision making. As long as I have even load I can carry all day without being tired or over exerted. When holsters aren't split front or semi open the higher draw hurts me. Maybe the compact (4"barrel) without any added muzzle device will make things less hurtful? Pain pisses me off and if a stressful situation occurs I need too be in as less pain as I can! I handle emotional situations well, but haven't been in any shooting situations. Life or death situations, yes.
One of the strange things about Texas ( there are a few). I used to try to talk my first wife into moving there. At the time there was no CC in Missouri and even carrying a gun in your car could result in a felony attempted unlawful use of a weapon charge. These days Missouri gun laws make Texas gun laws look restrictive.
 
I'm all about maximum concealment IWB about 3'O clock position. I have a box full of holsters that I used for years. Came across an add on some gun site about three years ago for JM4 Tactical Magnetic holsters. Concept seemed sound, magnetic retention, good quality leather, holster supposed to ride low around your belt line but still high enough to pull your weapon if needed. I ordered one just to see if they were what they claimed to be. They were, hands down. Main selling point is how the gun moves with you in the holster. I can carry wearing sweats, jeans, just about any kind of clothing. Handgun rides low, they do make higher riding models, but I'm partial to the original holster they make. I can now carry my P10C, my Sig P320x Compact, my Glocks, all concealed and the handgun doesn't poke me at all no matter if I'm driving, sitting, or whatever I'm doing. Very comfortable and well made holsters, a bit pricey but you really do get what you pay for with these holsters. They holster doesn't print and I can comfortably wear them all day, that's a two for two, imho.
 
Why did I choose what I did. There are several different reasons.

Blade Tech - At the time I bought it, there were few options I liked for the Browning 1911. The Blade tech looked the most promising. Once I bought I fell in love with the belt attachment system and the adjustability of it. Add to that the minimalist footprint and the presentation of the full grip and it just really won me over. First place I looked when I bought the P365xl was there but they don't have that model yet, just the p365. Eventually I will get one when they bring it out.

Stoner Crossdraw. I was looking for a crossdraw holster for the Model 60 for driving and blind sitting. I prefer leather so that is where I start looking. My two most used holster makers currently have long wait times. So I looked elsewhere. Stoner had really nice looking products, reasonable wait, great reviews and the cross draw could be worn strong side also. So I took a chance and will definitely use them again.

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Still 1 question hasn't been answered! Why do you like the choice you made?

In some cases like the Bond Arms Bullpup/Boberg many of the manufacturers don't even make a holster of any kind for it so one ends up trying to choose from what is available.

With other guns, like my XDs or my Hellcat I try to find one that actually fits my criteria which isn't as easy as it sounds.

I want:

  1. Outside the waistband;
  2. Adjustable cant that would allow for use as a cross draw, a strong side 5 o clock, and a MOB holster;
  3. Must effectively conceal the gun under a T-shirt with longer tail in the summer;
  4. Excellent retention even when very physically active.
I prefer leather, but own both leather and Kydex. I also own a couple of Mitch Rosen holsters that go between the belt and the pants for really deep concealment. https://mitchrosen.com/products/holsters/between-waistband-belt-holsters/
 
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