I think SA forgot to announce this???
- Thread starter ddeuce22
- Start date
The main thing when dealing with less budget friendly firearms is most people don't get to have a real world comparison between budget build or upper tier firearms so a lot of which is better is just assumption. This goes for people that buy on both ends of that spectrum.
AR-9's are wicked fun to shoot and can be really cost effective for longer time spent at the range. I would have liked to see the SA 9mm carbine able to take 9mm XDM Elite mags for side arm interchangeability. Better yet would be a SA carbine in 10mm as if this needed to be said.
AR-9's are wicked fun to shoot and can be really cost effective for longer time spent at the range. I would have liked to see the SA 9mm carbine able to take 9mm XDM Elite mags for side arm interchangeability. Better yet would be a SA carbine in 10mm as if this needed to be said.
45in OAL can't be the correct length for an AR with a 16in barrel unless you have the world's longest receiver of length or pull. This has to be closer to 32in-34in.
The AR buffer system really screws up the potential compactness that can be achieved with a 16in rifle. Having a system that could run without a buffer would allow for a folding stock. Most people don't fire with a folded stock closed but having this feature makes a huge difference in terms of storage.
Definitely must be a typo on length considering AR's with a 16" barrel pretty much all fall within 2"-4" of each other, which is typically under 3ft.
Last edited:
Talyn
SAINT
I agree.I would have liked to see the SA 9mm carbine able to take 9mm XDM Elite mags for side arm interchangeability. Better yet would be a SA carbine in 10mm as if this needed to be said.
SA has made a BIG mistake not to set it up to use XDM Elite mags, or more importantly Glock 19/17 mags like just about everyone else does.
Would have been interested in the SA PCC but the mag choice is a deal-breaker.
Bassbob
Emissary
You’re the only guy in the world saying that brother. Navy seals are running Noveskes and you can buy AP uppers for under $500. I have my doubts.
HansGruber
Ronin
they’re mainly running HK 416’s…
The US Navy has spent over $5 million with Noveske since 2007. I'm pretty sure there's a good mixture of different AR variants being used by the spec-ops community.
Definitely a typo. Saw it on Grabagun where the oal is 31.75”-35”.
That sounds accurate for a 16in barreled AR with a collapsible stock.
Bassbob
Emissary
There was an article posted here not too long ago about the new FDE 10.5” suppressed Noveskes that were being issued to them. Certainly in the last year or so.
Bassbob
Emissary
And I’m not saying Aero isn’t quality stuff. I’m totally going to build one soon. They were in the running for the one I’m working on now, but I already have a WC lower so I’m probably going to use a WC upper. Or BCM.
Not that I’m any kind of authority mind you. I have no doubt TFL knows way more about the platform than I do.
Not that I’m any kind of authority mind you. I have no doubt TFL knows way more about the platform than I do.
Performance wise you'll most likely never notice the difference.
Last edited:
TEXASforLIFE
SAINT
That's the part of the woods the military has me beat on, because of where they go, train and fight. Until it comes to my neck, then I can state otherwise.
I could be wrong, but I think AP is a sub part of Kreiger? Even if so I've never had any bad parts, performance and/or questions on doubts about AP. Just like buying a $4,500 tavor, I'll pass. If I just wanted to buy and not build, then I would be singing another song. No suppressors, no full autos, just making thing easy at this time on builds. Buying for the 1st 2 I would go with 7075 instead of 6061 aluminum. Those 2 are the cost difference or just adding up to it.
HansGruber
Ronin
Serious pointy-end guys are running HK…but, yeah, Noveske is well represented. Their M249/double chrome barrels are well thought of.
Talyn
SAINT
When it comes to building ARs as long as the internal dimensions are built to spec, there's not much difference in the handful of companies that actually make stripped uppers & lowers. Upper-scale companies make their difference in how the exterior aesthetics ar, and more than you think get their "fancy" uppers & lowers built by other companies.
I've used Anderson stripped uppers & lowers and they run as fine as the Aero P, Spikes, YHM and BCM stripped uppers & lowers I've used.
I put my extra care & $$ into the barrel (heart of the rifle), the trigger (soul of the rifle), the BCG and better user-friendly controls/parts when building/upgrading ARs.
However, there are makers, POF, LMT, Noveskes, BCM that do put more extra effort into their factory guns.
If you want to spend extra $$ on a name then that's fine.
My .02
I've used Anderson stripped uppers & lowers and they run as fine as the Aero P, Spikes, YHM and BCM stripped uppers & lowers I've used.
I put my extra care & $$ into the barrel (heart of the rifle), the trigger (soul of the rifle), the BCG and better user-friendly controls/parts when building/upgrading ARs.
However, there are makers, POF, LMT, Noveskes, BCM that do put more extra effort into their factory guns.
If you want to spend extra $$ on a name then that's fine.
My .02
Talyn
SAINT
Those are all FN barrels.
Yup and Noveske also
About Those Custom Rifles Navy SEALs Were Seen Carrying On A Recent Training Mission
After images of SEALs training off Virginia went viral, people wanted to know about the custom rifles they were carrying. Here's what we found out.
www.thedrive.com
HansGruber
Ronin
Noveske had their own; if they were mfg’d by FN, that’s news to me.