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I picked up my XDE (Langdon Tactical version) yesterday. Langdon did as could as they can with the trigger…still lots of creep, a crappy reset, a long, mushy take up to a crisp break…but this gun is just not designed for a DA/SA pivoting trigger. It is designed for a flat-pull trigger or short pivot like a striker fire.
Basically, Springfield tried to stuff a DA/SA trigger in a striker trigger guard (designed for a straighter trigger pull). It’s very obvious. I thought at first my issues with it feeling like a reach, and then all the poking and rubbing making it feel like my finger was in a pencil sharpener, was because the trigger was too curved. Checked it against my CZ and my Beretta and it’s not…it’s just that because the trigger guard is 1/4” to 1/2” too narrow north to south, they had to point the trigger forward at a ridiculous angle to keep it from rubbing when it pivots back.
So instead, your finger rubs raw on the trigger guard while the extreme angle caused the corner of the trigger to poke into the pad of your finger. Since you can only find purchase on the outside edge of the trigger, I imagine that’s why folks talk about pushing rounds to the left with this gun. I’ve seen it on a number of videos with shooters questioning whether the sights are off. They’re probably not…the horrible trigger purchase/ergonomics force you to push left. And if you slide your finger deeper in (what she said) to mitigate this, because the trigger break is so far back, it makes it really awkward to fire, particularly in DA. I wish I could return this…there’s no fixing it with just a new, flatter trigger. The trigger guard also needs to be enlarged to accommodate a pivoting trigger. This gun, if they insist on keeping it out there, needs a major re-design.
up my XDE (Langdon Tactical version) yesterday. Langdon did as best as they can with the trigger…still lots of creep, a crappy reset, a long, mushy take up to a crisp break…but this gun is just not designed for a DA/SA pivoting trigger. It is designed for a flat-pull trigger like a 1911 or short pivot, like a striker fire.
Basically, Springfield tried to stuff a DA/SA trigger in a striker trigger guard (designed for a straighter trigger pull). It’s very obvious. I thought at first my issues with it feeling like a reach, and then all the poking and rubbing making it feel like my finger was in a pencil sharpener, was because the trigger was too curved. Checked it against my CZ and my Beretta and it’s not…it’s just that because the trigger guard is 1/4” to 1/2” too narrow north to south, they had to point the trigger forward at a ridiculous angle to keep it from bottoming out when it pivots back.
So instead, your finger rubs raw on the trigger guard while the extreme angle causes the corner of the trigger to poke into the pad of your finger. Since you can only find purchase on the outside edge of the trigger, I imagine that’s why folks talk about pushing rounds to the left with this gun. I’ve seen it on a number of videos with shooters questioning whether the sights are off. They’re probably not…the horrible trigger purchase/ergonomics force you to push left. And if you slide your finger deeper in (what she said) to mitigate this, because the trigger break is so far back, it makes it really awkward to fire, particularly in DA. I wish I could return this…there’s no fixing it with just a new, flatter trigger. I mean, even Ernest Langdon couldn’t fix this gun.
The trigger guard also needs to be enlarged to accommodate a pivoting trigger. This gun, if they insist on keeping it out there, needs a major re-design. Below are photos comparing the finger purchase of the XDE (on the left) with that of a Beretta 92FS (on the right). Guess which trigger pokes your finger and causes the outside of your finger to rub on the trigger guard?
Basically, Springfield tried to stuff a DA/SA trigger in a striker trigger guard (designed for a straighter trigger pull). It’s very obvious. I thought at first my issues with it feeling like a reach, and then all the poking and rubbing making it feel like my finger was in a pencil sharpener, was because the trigger was too curved. Checked it against my CZ and my Beretta and it’s not…it’s just that because the trigger guard is 1/4” to 1/2” too narrow north to south, they had to point the trigger forward at a ridiculous angle to keep it from rubbing when it pivots back.
So instead, your finger rubs raw on the trigger guard while the extreme angle caused the corner of the trigger to poke into the pad of your finger. Since you can only find purchase on the outside edge of the trigger, I imagine that’s why folks talk about pushing rounds to the left with this gun. I’ve seen it on a number of videos with shooters questioning whether the sights are off. They’re probably not…the horrible trigger purchase/ergonomics force you to push left. And if you slide your finger deeper in (what she said) to mitigate this, because the trigger break is so far back, it makes it really awkward to fire, particularly in DA. I wish I could return this…there’s no fixing it with just a new, flatter trigger. The trigger guard also needs to be enlarged to accommodate a pivoting trigger. This gun, if they insist on keeping it out there, needs a major re-design.
up my XDE (Langdon Tactical version) yesterday. Langdon did as best as they can with the trigger…still lots of creep, a crappy reset, a long, mushy take up to a crisp break…but this gun is just not designed for a DA/SA pivoting trigger. It is designed for a flat-pull trigger like a 1911 or short pivot, like a striker fire.
Basically, Springfield tried to stuff a DA/SA trigger in a striker trigger guard (designed for a straighter trigger pull). It’s very obvious. I thought at first my issues with it feeling like a reach, and then all the poking and rubbing making it feel like my finger was in a pencil sharpener, was because the trigger was too curved. Checked it against my CZ and my Beretta and it’s not…it’s just that because the trigger guard is 1/4” to 1/2” too narrow north to south, they had to point the trigger forward at a ridiculous angle to keep it from bottoming out when it pivots back.
So instead, your finger rubs raw on the trigger guard while the extreme angle causes the corner of the trigger to poke into the pad of your finger. Since you can only find purchase on the outside edge of the trigger, I imagine that’s why folks talk about pushing rounds to the left with this gun. I’ve seen it on a number of videos with shooters questioning whether the sights are off. They’re probably not…the horrible trigger purchase/ergonomics force you to push left. And if you slide your finger deeper in (what she said) to mitigate this, because the trigger break is so far back, it makes it really awkward to fire, particularly in DA. I wish I could return this…there’s no fixing it with just a new, flatter trigger. I mean, even Ernest Langdon couldn’t fix this gun.
The trigger guard also needs to be enlarged to accommodate a pivoting trigger. This gun, if they insist on keeping it out there, needs a major re-design. Below are photos comparing the finger purchase of the XDE (on the left) with that of a Beretta 92FS (on the right). Guess which trigger pokes your finger and causes the outside of your finger to rub on the trigger guard?
