Independence-Class Littoral Combat Ship

[Mike H.]

Hello all, here is today's article posted on TheArmoryLife.com. It is titled “Independence-Class Littoral Combat Ship” and can be found at https://www.thearmorylife.com/independence-class-littoral-combat-ship/.

 

[Arthur Shelby]

I'll be honest. I didn't read this one. I just love that LCS still exist. What a colossal waste of money.

 

[trader]

Aluminum? Again? My God these people have short memories. Belknap anyone? https://veteransremember.com/2020/08/06/the-night-that-belknap-burned/

 

[Anchorite]

Thanks for the article. Built right close to me in Mobile.

 

[Talyn]

That & the other one are only good enough to defend against the Canadian Navy on the Great Lakes and the northern Puget Sound.

 

[3L120]

Wonder which CNI thought up this idea? Think of how many “useful” ships the same $ could have built. The developers, and the manufacturers, should be held responsible,!!

 

[USMC6094]

Funny how the Small Boys in years past were just as good in shallow water as they were in deep water.
Also remember that until JFK came along, weapon system development was not a matter decade's.
That class of ships is as useless as the acoustic aircraft detectors that preceded radar

 

[Talyn]

This all goes back to the end of the Cold War (~1990-ish) and Bush #1 and Dick Cheney (Sec.of Defense) who declared that naval military action would be "littoral" from then on with no near-peer (aka Soviet Naval) threats and subsequently cancelled/retired blue water assets and long-range naval aircraft like the existing A-6, F-14, S-3 and the A-12, then in development, and started experimenting with the LCS and Zummwalts. They decided to develop the F/A-18E/F to fit into that philosophy.

Time has shown that those descisions where short-sighted and a waste of $$.

Also, Bush #1 was a big supporter of the Chinese and started the slippery slope that we're stuck in now.

 

[Cedric]

This all goes back to the end of the Cold War (~1990-ish) and Bush #1 and Dick Cheney (Sec.of Defense) who declared that naval military action would be "littoral" from then on with no near-peer (aka Soviet Naval) threats and subsequently cancelled/retired blue water assets and long-range naval aircraft like the existing A-6, F-14, S-3 and the A-12, then in development, and started experimenting with the LCS and Zummwalts. They decided to develop the F/A-18E/F to fit into that philosophy.

Time has shown that those descisions where short-sighted and a waste of $$.

Also, Bush #1 was a big supporter of the Chinese and started the slippery slope that we're stuck in now.

And just as senseless were the pseudo-requirements generated by the magical word "GWOT." We couldn't just fight a war with what we had but taking a knee to GWOT meant money and fun gadgets and oddball concepts. The LCS just happens to be one of the most obvious and disastrous results of this war against a tactic rather than an enemy. The Army is just as culpable in this mess.

 

[Talyn]

And just as senseless were the pseudo-requirements generated by the magical word "GWOT." We couldn't just fight a war with what we had but taking a knee to GWOT meant money and fun gadgets and oddball concepts. The LCS just happens to be one of the most obvious and disastrous results of this war against a tactic rather than an enemy. The Army is just as culpable in this mess.

For the $$ spent (aka waste) on the Zumwalts & LCSs the USN could have bought many more Arleigh Burke's and SSNs, which are far more useful & capable, and we wouldn't be in the massive hole we're in right now.

It's a shame they're naming the next two CVNs, beyond the currently named/programmed ones for Bush #2 and B. Clinton.