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Introducing: The DANIEL H9

I’m know I’m an old goat, but I don’t buy anything “new” (just released). Let some of the “gotta have the latest thing now” kids do the beta testing. I’ll wait until it’s established itself as a reliable product thanks anyway. I had a shiney new AR from Colt way back when (complete with triangle handcarts, etc.-wouldn’t group in a barn door at 100 yards. Had a new S&W .22 Escort-wouldn’t feed/run reliably; bought a new Kimber Solo when they first came out. At the time I paid $1100 for it (more expensive than any handgun I’d bought at the time). Absolute POS-multiple trips to the mothership with zero problem resolution. Nope, I’ll wait until it’s a known quantity😊
 
Shibadog said:
I’m know I’m an old goat, but I don’t buy anything “new” (just released). Let some of the “gotta have the latest thing now” kids do the beta testing. I’ll wait until it’s established itself as a reliable product thanks anyway. I had a shiney new AR from Colt way back when (complete with triangle handcarts, etc.-wouldn’t group in a barn door at 100 yards. Had a new S&W .22 Escort-wouldn’t feed/run reliably; bought a new Kimber Solo when they first came out. At the time I paid $1100 for it (more expensive than any handgun I’d bought at the time). Absolute POS-multiple trips to the mothership with zero problem resolution. Nope, I’ll wait until it’s a known quantity😊
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Fair point and good all around advice. As far as ARs go I think the horse is out of the barn. Unless you buy that $380 Anderson ( which I bet money will still run like a champ) there isn't much to worry about. Nothing that can be wrong with an AR can't be fixed relatively simply and inexpensively.

By the way, I built an M16A1 "Clone" for a Vietnam Vet buddy of mine last year. Getting the triangle handguards on that new upper was a job.
 
Shibadog said:
I’m know I’m an old goat, but I don’t buy anything “new” (just released). Let some of the “gotta have the latest thing now” kids do the beta testing. I’ll wait until it’s established itself as a reliable product thanks anyway. I had a shiney new AR from Colt way back when (complete with triangle handcarts, etc.-wouldn’t group in a barn door at 100 yards. Had a new S&W .22 Escort-wouldn’t feed/run reliably; bought a new Kimber Solo when they first came out. At the time I paid $1100 for it (more expensive than any handgun I’d bought at the time). Absolute POS-multiple trips to the mothership with zero problem resolution. Nope, I’ll wait until it’s a known quantity😊
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I’m happy to be one of the “gotta have the latest things” kids. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t. It’s all part of the journey.
 
SimonRL said:
I’m happy to be one of the “gotta have the latest things” kids. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t. It’s all part of the journey.
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After 650 rds of wildly inconsistent performance from my Daniel H9 it started keyholing. I don’t know why, I’ve been using the same ammo all the way along, but it started tearing massive holes in the target. When I go back and look at photos of earlier targets I can see where it was doing it then as well, but not to the degree that it on the last target. I called DD and they said they had not heard of this before (even though there are several well known videos demonstrating this exact problem) and that it sounded like a bad barrel and they would likely replace the entire gun. It is also known that there were a bad batch of barrels around the 3000 mark and mine is 2936. So, it is back in the hands of Daniel Defense - I just got word this morning that it is now in their Service Queue. We will see what they come up with. While I was willing to be a beta tester on this gun I did not expect the level of trouble I’ve had with guns like my Archons and VP9s running circles around it, and I am feeling pretty jaded about the gun. Assuming it comes back and is performing properly I will probably move on from it. Maybe this is Karma for getting one of the odd Prodigy’s that runs like a scalded dog!
 
SimonRL said:
After 650 rds of wildly inconsistent performance from my Daniel H9 it started keyholing. I don’t know why, I’ve been using the same ammo all the way along, but it started tearing massive holes in the target. When I go back and look at photos of earlier targets I can see where it was doing it then as well, but not to the degree that it on the last target. I called DD and they said they had not heard of this before (even though there are several well known videos demonstrating this exact problem) and that it sounded like a bad barrel and they would likely replace the entire gun. It is also known that there were a bad batch of barrels around the 3000 mark and mine is 2936. So, it is back in the hands of Daniel Defense - I just got word this morning that it is now in their Service Queue. We will see what they come up with. While I was willing to be a beta tester on this gun I did not expect the level of trouble I’ve had with guns like my Archons and VP9s running circles around it, and I am feeling pretty jaded about the gun. Assuming it comes back and is performing properly I will probably move on from it. Maybe this is Karma for getting one of the odd Prodigy’s that runs like a scalded dog!
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Can’t beat the odds all the time…

That’s disappointing, though, because I’m keeping my eye in these.
 
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