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M&P9 Ammo

belladonna said:
I have a buttload of the Winchester white (and green) box. Got it on sale at my FFL. I guess I'll run it until it's gone. I had a couple of fail to feeds, but not sure from which ammo. Thanks!
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I bet the WWB is fine now. My ‘experience’ happened at an approx time there seemed to be a number of postings on various sites describing problems with it.
Also, the S&B is plentiful here (more so than WWB) and no more expensive. So I stick with it, mostly.
 
TidalWave said:
I bet the WWB is fine now. My ‘experience’ happened at an approx time there seemed to be a number of postings on various sites describing problems with it.
Also, the S&B is plentiful here (more so than WWB) and no more expensive. So I stick with it, mostly.
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I had WWB fail miserably a couple months ago. Was on sale
Bought a trial box to see if they have improved since earlier they sucked.
Had 2 failures in 2 guns… confirmed
Dont buy that 💩again
 
TidalWave said:
I bet the WWB is fine now. My ‘experience’ happened at an approx time there seemed to be a number of postings on various sites describing problems with it.
Also, the S&B is plentiful here (more so than WWB) and no more expensive. So I stick with it, mostly.
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I haven't bought any White Box since I started hearing about the issues. I still have a couple hundred rounds of it in .45 from a few years ago. Shot 100 this morning with no problems.
 
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KillerFord1977 said:
I had WWB fail miserably a couple months ago. Was on sale
Bought a trial box to see if they have improved since earlier they sucked.
Had 2 failures in 2 guns… confirmed
Dont buy that 💩again
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See? This is why I throw my questions out there. I don't care how it makes me look. I appreciate every response. Like I said, I will run that stuff through my guns and see what happens. It might be fine with one, and the others might puke it all over the place. I am wondering now if that is the reason it was so cheap? We'll see.. :cool:
 
belladonna said:
See? This is why I throw my questions out there. I don't care how it makes me look. I appreciate every response. Like I said, I will run that stuff through my guns and see what happens. It might be fine with one, and the others might puke it all over the place. I am wondering now if that is the reason it was so cheap? We'll see.. :cool:
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I bet @Belt Fed Hi Point and Kel tec chews them up all day long and then the gun cracks after a hundred rounds 😉😝
 
belladonna said:
See? This is why I throw my questions out there. I don't care how it makes me look. I appreciate every response. Like I said, I will run that stuff through my guns and see what happens. It might be fine with one, and the others might puke it all over the place. I am wondering now if that is the reason it was so cheap? We'll see.. :cool:
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Just be careful of squibs. Usually a rare occurence with factory loads, but it can be dangerous if you get a squib load stuck in the barrel and pull the trigger again. You can usually hear a squib. It's considerable quieter, sounds noticeably wrong and obviously the recoil will be less.
 
This is what you need to watchout for

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Bassbob said:
I haven't bought any White Box since I started hearing about the issues. I still have a couple hundred rounds of it in .45 from a few years ago. Shot 100 this morning with no problems.
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45acp is the only wwb I've shot cartridge for. 0 issues. If you reload, stay away from Jag primed brass. Not squibs, just fail to ignite! It got interesting when doing the range part for cc license. The day before all 3 mags ran fine (45 rounds). CCI primers have always come thru and I BUY with confidence (39 years of use and counting)!
 
For my 9mm
Range will be Freedom Munitions Reman ball or JHP 115/124gr, S&B, or Blazer
Carry will be Barnes TAC XPD 115 gr or Norma MHP 108gr in my Shields, PPS and Hellcat.
I will shoot (test) both rounds this coming weekend in my M&P subcompact that just arrived.
Thanks for posting your pictures the other day which made for an impulse buy online :)
 
A lot of Name trainers in the shooting industry recognize this guy Dr. Gary Roberts as the leading expert on wound ballistics.

I have asked a few of them to recommend ammunition to me and every time I do they reference this list.

Service Caliber Handgun Duty and Self-Defense Ammo

6/1/16 When comparing well designed duty handgun ammunition, there are minimal differences in penetration depths and temporary cavity effects, as noted below in the gel shots by Doug Carr: http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq319/DocGKR/Handgun_gel_comparison.jpg As...
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My preference is 124 grain +P Gold Dots but, as I was told, anything on this list will serve you well
 
The Night Rider said:
A lot of Name trainers in the shooting industry recognize this guy Dr. Gary Roberts as the leading expert on wound ballistics.

I have asked a few of them to recommend ammunition to me and every time I do they reference this list.

Service Caliber Handgun Duty and Self-Defense Ammo

6/1/16 When comparing well designed duty handgun ammunition, there are minimal differences in penetration depths and temporary cavity effects, as noted below in the gel shots by Doug Carr: http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq319/DocGKR/Handgun_gel_comparison.jpg As...
pistol-forum.com

My preference is 124 grain +P Gold Dots but, as I was told, anything on this list will serve you well
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That is, by far, the most definitive list of carry loads going. Given, it’s usually referenced for duty pistols (4” barrel, give or take), but when you look at the rounds represented’s performance out of shorter barrels (the Lucky Gunner tears, for example) you’ll see that most of them also perform well.

That list has been around for about 20 years, give or take, and I’ve not seen any rounds do better.
 
My M&P Shield 9 and my Hellcat run great with Fiocchi 124 for range and Black Hills Honey Badger 125 Subsonic for self defense. The Fiocchi range ammo (got a great deal on a case) is a bit snappier than the Honey Badger but good for practice. My new P365 380 runs Blazer Brass Case 95 grain and Honey Badger 60 grain well also and the snap factor is the same as the two 9's. Find what your guns like and shoot often!
 
HansGruber said:
That is, by far, the most definitive list of carry loads going. Given, it’s usually referenced for duty pistols (4” barrel, give or take), but when you look at the rounds represented’s performance out of shorter barrels (the Lucky Gunner tears, for example) you’ll see that most of them also perform well.

That list has been around for about 20 years, give or take, and I’ve not seen any rounds do better.
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I think he has another list in that same sub forum specifically for short barrel pistols
 
Lock n' Load said:
My M&P Shield 9 and my Hellcat run great with Fiocchi 124 for range and Black Hills Honey Badger 125 Subsonic for self defense. The Fiocchi range ammo (got a great deal on a case) is a bit snappier than the Honey Badger but good for practice. My new P365 380 runs Blazer Brass Case 95 grain and Honey Badger 60 grain well also and the snap factor is the same as the two 9's. Find what your guns like and shoot often!
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I've found Fiocchi to be quite dirty, but also got a good deal on it I think, $0.27/round for their 115gr. So far, my favorite training ammo is Sig 115gr and Sellier & Bellot 115gr. Seems to be very consistent, and very clean.
 
Pro Digy II said:
I've found Fiocchi to be quite dirty, but also got a good deal on it I think, $0.27/round for their 115gr. So far, my favorite training ammo is Sig 115gr and Sellier & Bellot 115gr. Seems to be very consistent, and very clean.
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Fiocchi...dirty..??

i actually shot 50 rounds of it this morning in my G-17.......and 50 rounds of my reloads...

you wanna talk durty ammo...??

i had to call out the US Coast Guard with thier high intensity search lights to cut thru the smoke from my reloads..

the Fiocchi on the other hand.....

 
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