Annihilator
Emissary
Anyone know anything about an East German 1960 Makarov? In great condition and comes with original military holster….with original German grips…...value?
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Recusant
Hellcat
I have one I bought years ago when they were first imported into the county. Some say the E. German pistols are the best made. I have carried it from time to time. Another member here has mentioned carrying one as well. Hopefully he will join the conversation.
An Official Journal Of The NRA | The East German Makarov: A Cold-War Collectible
The Cold War-era Makarov is a common pistol, but within the hundreds of thousands made, the East German variants are the most desirable.
History of the East German Makarov - The Armory Life
After the defeat of the Third Reich in World War II, a divided Germany emerged from the conflict’s aftermath. In the west, the BRD (Bundesrepublik Deutschland) was established as a federal parliamentary republic, and in the east, the Deutsche Demokratische Republik (also known as the “DDR” as...
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Annihilator
Emissary
Thanks for the info sir! I may have a chance in getting this, but just wanted some info and what its value is.I have one I bought years ago when they were first imported into the county. Some say the E. German pistols are the best made. I have carried it from time to time. Another member here has mentioned carrying one as well. Hopefully he will join the conversation.
An Official Journal Of The NRA | The East German Makarov: A Cold-War Collectible
The Cold War-era Makarov is a common pistol, but within the hundreds of thousands made, the East German variants are the most desirable.www.americanrifleman.org
History of the East German Makarov - The Armory Life
After the defeat of the Third Reich in World War II, a divided Germany emerged from the conflict’s aftermath. In the west, the BRD (Bundesrepublik Deutschland) was established as a federal parliamentary republic, and in the east, the Deutsche Demokratische Republik (also known as the “DDR” as...
Sld1959
Ronin
Prices have gone up on recent years, I would look at gun broker.
I have had various maks over the years. I gave my nephews each a Bulgarian for thier first pistols. Good handgun sturdy and accurate. I kept an East German for myself. The East German Maks are the cream of the crop. In my experience the East German has a superior trigger pull and nice blue finish. It still is the best shooting handgun I ever shot, in my hand.
Maks are unique, going off memory, in they only have 19 parts not including the mag. Of those parts all you need is a true Makarov cleaning rod to completely strip the pistol, except the pressed in barrel. Maintaining the Mak is a breeze, you change the firing pin simply by rotating the safety and dumping out the pin. Changing the main spring take about a minute.
I will always have a mak. I love the East German grip, it's much thinner thsn other variants, especially the crap import grip. I have carried the Mak for 20 years on and off, mostly on.
I have had various maks over the years. I gave my nephews each a Bulgarian for thier first pistols. Good handgun sturdy and accurate. I kept an East German for myself. The East German Maks are the cream of the crop. In my experience the East German has a superior trigger pull and nice blue finish. It still is the best shooting handgun I ever shot, in my hand.
Maks are unique, going off memory, in they only have 19 parts not including the mag. Of those parts all you need is a true Makarov cleaning rod to completely strip the pistol, except the pressed in barrel. Maintaining the Mak is a breeze, you change the firing pin simply by rotating the safety and dumping out the pin. Changing the main spring take about a minute.
I will always have a mak. I love the East German grip, it's much thinner thsn other variants, especially the crap import grip. I have carried the Mak for 20 years on and off, mostly on.
HansGruber
Ronin
E. Germans are going for $5-600 nowadays. I’ve got one, and the fit & finish are a lot nicer than the Bulgy I had for a while.
Beyond that? Maks are pretty much bombproof. Only 19 parts to them, iirc…
Get it. Fun little bit of history.
Beyond that? Maks are pretty much bombproof. Only 19 parts to them, iirc…
Get it. Fun little bit of history.
Sld1959
Ronin
Made a typo too many parts lol Hans is correct 19.
I did have larger sights added to mine, not overly worried about wrecking value, it's not going anywhere. But my old eyes needed them for any kind of speed.
BTW, the hole in the back of the grip is where the lanyard is tied into.
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Sld1959
Ronin
For informational purposes the info from the now defunct Makarov.com is still available. It was the definitive Makarov website.
I happen to have the two Makarov manuals which were available. The larger is a translation of the original East German manual.
I happen to have the two Makarov manuals which were available. The larger is a translation of the original East German manual.
Sld1959
Ronin
Ok, now I got the itch to carry my fav pistol. Taking it out of my Ghb and putting the P365XL into the GHB in its place for a few days. Lol.
Honestly I trust it's reliability more thsman any other pistol I have owned, like i trust my revolvers, which is why it stays in the GHB and is always there no matter what else I may be carrying.
Honestly I trust it's reliability more thsman any other pistol I have owned, like i trust my revolvers, which is why it stays in the GHB and is always there no matter what else I may be carrying.
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Annihilator
Emissary
Thanks guys, going to look at it today, I do see online some go pretty high in price.
Another pic of it
Another pic of it
Annihilator
Emissary
I did look at the pistol, it's nice, but the asking price is $700.00, I seen them on Gunbroker for various prices, price isn't negotiable .......so I will ponder on it....thanks guys for all your information and the Makarov sight.
Recusant
Hellcat
If the picture you posted is the same gun it showed too much wear for that price. If I was going to spend $700 the pistol would have to been almost new. I'd keep looking. Now it would be a different story if that Mak had been issued to Putin when he was assigned to E. Germany, but remember to always buy the gun and not the story!
Annihilator
Emissary
Yep, same gun.....still up in the air
HansGruber
Ronin
Nice Stasi shoulder rig with it…
Sld1959
Ronin
It's kind of hard to tell in the photo but from what I see it looks pretty clean. Does not look like there is muzzle wear from a holster, mine had that when I got it. Typical plum color on the hammer. A nice coating of wax will make that blued finish pop, the EGs are the very best finished with a lovely blue finish. If it's as nice as it looks it woukd go in the higher prices for a Mak, EGs are like said the top. Holster is not something you find all the time.
They are the simplest of pistols to maintain. One screw pops off the grip if you want to look underneath. Under is the main spring which just slides out after you move a clip. Pull down the Trigger guard and move right or simply hook your finger under it like i do and retract the slide lifting up the back removes slide. If you take off the recoil spring watch carefully what end goes where. Rotating the safety lever takes it off and allows the firing pin to drop out again watch how it comes out. Pipe cleaners are handy to clean the channel you can hear the rattle when its nice and clean. So no, Maks are not considered drop safe for firing pins. Springs are available from Wolff. All Makarov parts interchange and NO, to those who think so Hungarians ,Polish Wanads, and Chezch CzS are NOT Makarovs they are pistols which shoot the 9x18 caliber.
They are the simplest of pistols to maintain. One screw pops off the grip if you want to look underneath. Under is the main spring which just slides out after you move a clip. Pull down the Trigger guard and move right or simply hook your finger under it like i do and retract the slide lifting up the back removes slide. If you take off the recoil spring watch carefully what end goes where. Rotating the safety lever takes it off and allows the firing pin to drop out again watch how it comes out. Pipe cleaners are handy to clean the channel you can hear the rattle when its nice and clean. So no, Maks are not considered drop safe for firing pins. Springs are available from Wolff. All Makarov parts interchange and NO, to those who think so Hungarians ,Polish Wanads, and Chezch CzS are NOT Makarovs they are pistols which shoot the 9x18 caliber.
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Luv2hike 1961
Alpha
Hearing $200 for an East German made my wallet hurt, I paid $650 for mine over 8 years ago. I think they can go up to $800. I bought a Bulgarian Sneak, Russian military pistol imported as a Bulgarian that can go as high as $1500, for $350 at a gun show where the person clearly didn't know what they had. Fun pistols with a deep history.
I bought one in 1991 and have kept in my car since. When I sold the car, my son-in-law cleaned it out and managed to loose one of my mags. The one I have left is very short and only holds 5 cartridges. I have searched the internet for a replacement but can not find one. Does anyone know where I can find one or two replacements?
Sld1959
Ronin
Very short? Never heard of a "short" Makarov magazine. Are you sure it's a real Makarov? Or perhaps you are mistaking a 9x18 Makarov caliber magazine for another pistol as a Makarov magazine.
The P64 shoots 9x18 mak but only holds 6 rounds I suspect that is what you have. Either a wrong p64 mag or you have a p64 pistol.
If you have a p64 pistol you need a p64 mag. If you have a genuine Makarov pistol you need a genuine Makarov mag.they are not interchangeable.
Usually your best bet to find either is Gunbroker these days.
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Sld1959
Ronin
That's what I figured. A lot of people mistakenly call several other pistols generically a Makarov. Look for magazibes specifically for a p64, not Makarov. I am not sure but never heard of a higher capacity P64 magazine than 6 rounds but I could easily be wrong.