More trouble for Sig

[wmg1299]

I'm not a huge Sig Sauer fan, but the P365 has been my EDC since it was released. I worked my way through law school as a police officer, and have been involved in numerous situations where people claimed that a handgun fired without anyone manipulating the trigger. The only situations where this turned out to be true involved an 80's model semi-auto discharging after a hard drop, and a cheap fabric holster bunching up in the trigger guard and activating the trigger on a holstered weapon. I want to give the cop the benefit of the doubt, but I would need more evidence to convince me.

I know for a fact that it is not impossible for a gun to fire without someone manipulating the trigger, but it is incredibly rare. While the officer may in fact be able to prove that this did occur exactly as he claims, merely filing a lawsuit is far from providing absolute proof. I would very much like to learn how the case is resolved.

 

[HayesGreener]

The Sig M11 was the standard for federal investigative agencies for many years. My agency had several thousand of them and they were dead nuts dependable through a couple of wars and many missions. I have several Legions and they are the finest combat pistols I have owned. I carry a P220 SAO Legion every day.

When the P320 came along I was impressed with the ergonomics and with how well novice shooters did with the platform. The compact version is the one I was most comfortable with as it is very close to the M11 in size-a balance of concealability and serviceability. When the drop safety issue came up a few years back Sig upgraded the FCU to safeguard against drops. As a Sig armorer, I have real difficulty comprehending how this gun can fire if the trigger is not pulled in some manner. I need someone to show me the technical details of how it can happen.

 

[benstt]

The Sig M11 was the standard for federal investigative agencies for many years. My agency had several thousand of them and they were dead nuts dependable through a couple of wars and many missions. I have several Legions and they are the finest combat pistols I have owned. I carry a P220 SAO Legion every day.

When the P320 came along I was impressed with the ergonomics and with how well novice shooters did with the platform. The compact version is the one I was most comfortable with as it is very close to the M11 in size-a balance of concealability and serviceability. When the drop safety issue came up a few years back Sig upgraded the FCU to safeguard against drops. As a Sig armorer, I have real difficulty comprehending how this gun can fire if the trigger is not pulled in some manner. I need someone to show me the technical details of how it can happen.

From what I've read, and with my limited technical knowledge of fire control groups, the sear is to insubstantial to keep the striker from striking if it's jostled too much.

 

[benstt]

I'm not a huge Sig Sauer fan, but the P365 has been my EDC since it was released. I worked my way through law school as a police officer, and have been involved in numerous situations where people claimed that a handgun fired without anyone manipulating the trigger. The only situations where this turned out to be true involved an 80's model semi-auto discharging after a hard drop, and a cheap fabric holster bunching up in the trigger guard and activating the trigger on a holstered weapon. I want to give the cop the benefit of the doubt, but I would need more evidence to convince me.

I know for a fact that it is not impossible for a gun to fire without someone manipulating the trigger, but it is incredibly rare. While the officer may in fact be able to prove that this did occur exactly as he claims, merely filing a lawsuit is far from providing absolute proof. I would very much like to learn how the case is resolved.

I generally agree with you but this isn't the first suit. I read the complaint in a case with 20 or so plaintiffs a while ago that was compelling. The allegations haven't been proven but the number and seriousness make me want to avoid the 320 out of caution.

 

[David N.]

The Sig M11 was the standard for federal investigative agencies for many years. My agency had several thousand of them and they were dead nuts dependable through a couple of wars and many missions. I have several Legions and they are the finest combat pistols I have owned. I carry a P220 SAO Legion every day.

When the P320 came along I was impressed with the ergonomics and with how well novice shooters did with the platform. The compact version is the one I was most comfortable with as it is very close to the M11 in size-a balance of concealability and serviceability. When the drop safety issue came up a few years back Sig upgraded the FCU to safeguard against drops. As a Sig armorer, I have real difficulty comprehending how this gun can fire if the trigger is not pulled in some manner. I need someone to show me the technical details of how it can happen.

I wanted a P320 RXP XCompact really bad, but this trigger issue (real or imagined) made me reconsider my choice for EDC. I checked one out at the PX Friday, so who knows one might be in my future.