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Multiple Drone Incursions Over USAF Bases In England

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The Russian hybrid warfare activities keep extending in Europe.

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Multiple Drone Incursions Just Occurred Over USAF Fighter Base In England

This is the latest incident involving groups of drones flying over sensitive U.S. military facilities.
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Mysterious Drones Have Descended Again On U.S. Air Bases In The United Kingdom

We also now know the drone incursions last week happened over multiple bases, not just RAF Lakenheath.
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Plus help from the Chicoms...

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Sabotage Claims Swirl Around Severed Baltic Sea Cable Incidents

Damage to the two fiber-optic cables are the latest incidents to have affected critical infrastructure in the Baltic Sea. Damage to the two fiber-optic cables are the latest incidents to have affected critical infrastructure in the Baltic Sea.
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Danish Navy Shadows Chinese Cargo Ship After Baltic Sea Cable Damage

The Chinese ship, the Yi Peng 3, is now anchored, with a Royal Danish Navy patrol boat alongside it. The Chinese ship, the Yi Peng 3, is now anchored, with a Royal Danish Navy patrol boat alongside it.
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I was stationed at RAF Mildenhal/Lakenheath for a time. Lakenheath is an incredibly active base, strategically important.

There is an episode of America's Got Talent where a group of big brains put on a light show with hundreds of drones. Seeing the control they had on the drones makes one realize the military capabilities of these swarms


 
I agree with the thought that they need to be shot down, but you have to remember that whatever goes up, has to come down. Some of these bases are near populated areas. I can already foresee that some innocent people on the ground will be injured or killed. And property damage from the falling "flak". Just something to think about.
 
The Army/DoD made a huge mistake post Gulf War when they manufactured lessons learned thinking all war was going to be like GW I. Congress was coming down on them to reduce division end strength so they removed division air defense and put salvageable assets at Corps. The other thing was they took away battalion support platoons and put everything in the brigade support battalions with the promise that support groups would be attached to the battalions went required. The proposed new division organization has solved the first problem. There is a robust air defense protection capability including anti-UAS units. The jury is still out on the logistics issue as I see it.

The other avenue of approach is EW. We were already conducting drone wars against Iran while we were in Iraq in the late aughts. Both sides spoofed the other and we were able to sometimes cause theirs to auger in, or occassionally take them over completely. If I had to guess I'd say we have increased that capability where we could reverse course to their point of origin or trace the signal, but again, I'm just guessing. The key to this is leadership must be willing to commit to deal with the problem, which is something that has been sorely missing for 50 years.
 
OldGrunt said:
I agree with the thought that they need to be shot down, but you have to remember that whatever goes up, has to come down. Some of these bases are near populated areas. I can already foresee that some innocent people on the ground will be injured or killed. And property damage from the falling "flak". Just something to think about.
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The SkyRanger systems' muzzle device electronically sets the shell to explode at the predicted point in the sky where the target is/will be, based on input from EO/radar sensors on the turret. The SkyRanger system also has a pod containing small SAMs (Stingers etc.) for anything that would need something more potent.

The much older German Gepard system that's ben very successful in Ukraine does the same. However, small fragments still have to fall to earth.

The Land-based Phalanx System (LPWS) doesn't have that but has a self-destruct fuse that virtually eliminates collateral damage.

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Most important, whereas civilian airports can have a lot of civilian development around then, military airbases should have buffer zones.

And you don't have to have a longer-range system for point-defense (Very Short-range Air Defense (VSHORAD), but those longer-range system should be deployed where/as needed.
 
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