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My Saint AR Pistol Blast Diverter Exploded ?

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Rich887

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Has anyone experienced this. My Saint 7 1/2 “ 556 is Gen 1 about 4 yrs old .. Today shooting at the range some Winchester 223 55grain FMJ Brass the Blast Diverter appears to have exploded didn’t realize at the time till I got home to clean it. Is this normal just wear and tear or something else ?
 

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xdman said:
Looks like a “baffle“ strike, call Springfield on Mon. I wonder if you could have had a squib then a second round that struck the end of the brake.
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I have the same Saint V w/BD but not this issue.
Can you expand more on that baffle strike occurrence. How common or rare is it. If squib related how much is due to 7.5 barrel and ammo choice for such.
 
Area52 said:
I have the same Saint V w/BD but not this issue.
Can you expand more on that baffle strike occurrence. How common or rare is it. If squib related how much is due to 7.5 barrel and ammo choice for such.
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A squib is 100% ammo related, but normally has nothing to do with the brand. It’s either a light charge, or no powder, just a primer, or a bad primer that doesn’t flash hot enough to completely ignite the powder. It can happen in premium ammo, or blaster grade…and if you like to rapid fire, it’ll likely bite you sooner rather than later.
 
You can have a squib in a 2" revolver, so I doubt that barrel length is really a contributing factor. The type of ammo being used could be a factor. Also, some ammo companies have a higher reported incidence of squib loads, but in most cases that's hard to verify. Over the years I've had brand name ammo fail to fire, but that is so rare. Unless you shoot your gun so much that the barrel glows red, I can't see metal fatigue as the cause. Have you looked through the barrel to see if perhaps there could be a slight bulge or ring inside? As xdman directed, I'd call Springfield. Before I shot it again, I'd want them to do a thorough inspection to make sure there is no other damage. As HansGruber points out rapid fire makes a squib almost impossible to detect.
 
Rich887 said:
🤣 01 LX470 Mint condition .. I’m just trying to rationalize what I see. I can’t find anyone else who has ever posted a similar experience..
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So just to be clear Rich, you experienced no noticeable malfunctions, no rounds that were not normal, nothing that would indicate a squib? You would have noticed a squib, followed by the next round destroying your muzzle brake, but we haven't heard enough detail(s) to reliably diagnose from the situation described...given the pressures of a .223 combined with the projectile velocity, a squib seems unlikely without some noticeable clues...?

I asked about the brake due to casting porosity, which can make a cast piece of metal (any metal) far weaker than the same metal without gap-bubbles in the cast piece. If the brake is milled from billet, porosity is not an issue. If the brake is cast, it is a possibility for a weakened piece (brake). I'm inclined to believe a muzzle brake is milled...if there were porosity it is likely to have been discovered during the grinding process of the brake, but you never know.
 
Jfal said:
So just to be clear Rich, you experienced no noticeable malfunctions, no rounds that were not normal, nothing that would indicate a squib? You would have noticed a squib, followed by the next round destroying your muzzle brake, but we haven't heard enough detail(s) to reliably diagnose from the situation described...given the pressures of a .223 combined with the projectile velocity, a squib seems unlikely without some noticeable clues...?

I asked about the brake due to casting porosity, which can make a cast piece of metal (any metal) far weaker than the same metal without gap-bubbles in the cast piece. If the brake is milled from billet, porosity is not an issue. If the brake is cast, it is a possibility for a weakened piece (brake). I'm inclined to believe a muzzle brake is milled...if there were porosity it is likely to have been discovered during the grinding process of the brake, but you never know.
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To the best of my knowledge no squib or any malfunction of ammo or gun took place. My brother and I were just having fun with his new Gen 2 Galil Ace and my Saint. We may have rapid fired a few rounds.. I can say at about round 30 all of a sudden it seemed as though each shot was louder and the muzzle flash was more pronounced like I was shooting dragons breath. Never occurred to us damage had occurred we were just thinking perhaps the rounds were hot.
 
Spoke to Springfield Warranty dept today .They are sending me a new blast diverter.via fedex They did offer to let me ship the gun to them for inspection / repair but I declined due to being 2-4 weeks turns around.
 
Rich887 said:
Spoke to Springfield Warranty dept today .They are sending me a new blast diverter.via fedex They did offer to let me ship the gun to them for inspection / repair but I declined due to being 2-4 weeks turns around.
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I’m glad this is working out for you however I would have wanted my rifle inspected due to why this happened is an unknown. Good luck and be safe.
 
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