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Newly purchased saint victor ar15 is a DISASTER!!!!

NMEDGE said:
This is what happens when somebody that has no experience or knowledge of firearms purchases one. This person has no business owning one. Hopefully he won't hurt himself or someone else.
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I don't know about that, but I can tell you that when I bought my first AR I did some research. At that time there was another, non corporate SA forum ( I think it still exists, but long ago I scrubbed all my interactions, or rather had my user name changed to a number via the admins on every gun related web forum) that I posted at before I got an invite to join here. In fact I was invited to be a "Founding member" here but having just scrubbed all my internet footprints I resisted for a month or so before joining. Anyway, those dudes there were knowledgeable but way less friendly than the guys here. I was urged to build my own rather than buy one. I tried wrapping my head around buying the separate parts and all that, but knowing literally nothing about them I didn't want to just start buying parts I had no idea what to do with. So I picked what I thought was a decent quality, lower cost ( at the time, this was 2019 I think and that rifle today sells for about half of what I paid, which was about $800 ) AR. Voodoo Innovations Witch Doctor by Adams Arms. It's a good enough carbine, but I can tell you it looks nothing like it did when I got it anymore. I took it apart, started researching parts and furniture. Upgraded the trigger and BCG, put Magpul furniture on it. Flip ups and optics, etc.. I never bought another pre packaged AR and I don't think I ever will.
 
Bassbob said:
I don't know about that, but I can tell you that when I bought my first AR I did some research. At that time there was another, non corporate SA forum ( I think it still exists, but long ago I scrubbed all my interactions, or rather had my user name changed to a number via the admins on every gun related web forum) that I posted at before I got an invite to join here. In fact I was invited to be a "Founding member" here but having just scrubbed all my internet footprints I resisted for a month or so before joining. Anyway, those dudes there were knowledgeable but way less friendly than the guys here. I was urged to build my own rather than buy one. I tried wrapping my head around buying the separate parts and all that, but knowing literally nothing about them I didn't want to just start buying parts I had no idea what to do with. So I picked what I thought was a decent quality, lower cost ( at the time, this was 2019 I think and that rifle today sells for about half of what I paid, which was about $800 ) AR. Voodoo Innovations Witch Doctor by Adams Arms. It's a good enough carbine, but I can tell you it looks nothing like it did when I got it anymore. I took it apart, started researching parts and furniture. Upgraded the trigger and BCG, put Magpul furniture on it. Flip ups and optics, etc.. I never bought another pre packaged AR and I don't think I ever will.
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Heck, I did that to my Colt 6920LE.

Then did it again a few years later, when I learned a few things…
 
I do research before the buy. Then haggle with the LGS for the parts I want at time of sale. That way I've got what I wanted, and I almost always wait for some kind of promo or sale since they will be more flexible then and throw in this and that to make the sale. The vendor is happy having moved product during the sale (sometimes they get an incentive from the various manufacturers) and alls well that ends well. I would think going on a well known forum to b*tch about things would only make me look foolish and unprepared. JMO
 
trader said:
I do research before the buy. Then haggle with the LGS for the parts I want at time of sale. That way I've got what I wanted, and I almost always wait for some kind of promo or sale since they will be more flexible then and throw in this and that to make the sale. The vendor is happy having moved product during the sale (sometimes they get an incentive from the various manufacturers) and alls well that ends well. I would think going on a well known forum to b*tch about things would only make me look foolish and unprepared. JMO
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Never bought one from an LGS.
 
Some people don’t want to assemble an AR-15 or just want to get into the AR game and learn as they go on. The Saint is a good way to do that and get a pretty decent AR. What burns me - and you see this a lot - is people like the OP who rubbish a gun because of inconsequential nits and act like they are knowledgeable when everything they are saying says completely the opposite. Good riddance.
 
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Belt Fed said:
First, lots of AR's will have a slight bit of slack between the upper and lower. some worse. i don't know how much you have but that should not stop you from shooting it.
Second Very few have QD mounts. just buy one and mount it on the hand rail. the stock should have one, although i am not familiar with the saint as i don't own one. don't e mail them, call them. they will answer.

The things you have listed have no bearing on firing the gun. a sling shouldn't keep you from shooting it. what is it that makes it un shootable and what needs hooking up?
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^^^THIS^^^

As noted, there is a bit of wobble between the upper and lower and if the grip is wobbling just tighten it up. The screw is inside the grip housing. It's either a torx head, phillips or a hex head fastener.

There is a spot to attach a QD sling mount in the stock. There isn't one on the foregrip but it's a simple matter of finding one at several different vendors, such as MagPul, Bravo Company, and others.

Today's prices for firearms and accessories are nowhere near what they were just a few short years ago, much like everything else.

I have several 5 Springfield Armory firearms and if or when I had an issue with one of them a short call to customer service usually solved the problem.
 
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