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Cedric said:
Umm...no. In the last two decades or so, most guns were shipped in to supply the cartels and various rebel groups from other countries. Notably, huge stocks of M-16s left in VN were shipped to Latin America to give the communist revolutionaries a "Western" appearance as if we were the ones doing the supplying. The Fast and Furious boondogle, which was designed to influence US public opinion (which you have fallen for) on the imaginary thousands of US weapons flowing to Mexico was in reality very few compared to the bulk shipments from overseas. Additionally, many cartel foot soldiers are made up of Mexican army deserters who brought their PTR-91s with them. The gold plated AKs seen in magazines are collector items for the cartel bosses because M-16s and PTR-91s don't use the same ammo. BTW, the Mexican army is switching to a 5.56mm rifle so why fool with the logistics? Bottomline: thousands of guns from the US is a deception fostered by Obama and continued by the current gov't.
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to add to Cedric's point here are 3 sources to review - https://nypost.com/2013/12/01/book-excerpt-how-america-gave-guns-to-mexican-drug-cartels/
abcnews.go.com

Fast and Furious Scandal: New Details Emerge on How the U.S. Government Armed Mexican Drug Cartels

Univision News' in-depth investigation into the ATF's controversial "gun walking" operation exposes never before disclosed facts about its horrific impact in Mexico and the region.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com
 
trader said:
to add to Cedric's point here are 3 sources to review - https://nypost.com/2013/12/01/book-excerpt-how-america-gave-guns-to-mexican-drug-cartels/
abcnews.go.com

Fast and Furious Scandal: New Details Emerge on How the U.S. Government Armed Mexican Drug Cartels

Univision News' in-depth investigation into the ATF's controversial "gun walking" operation exposes never before disclosed facts about its horrific impact in Mexico and the region.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com
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Congressman Issa's report is even more comical, but these reports underestimate the scale required to equip the cartels. We're talking way more than is in these articles, which is why drug smugglers and traffickers go big on their shipments. Did US weapons make it to Mexico - sure. But the numbers were dwarfed by the cartels own import operations. Also, as I mentioned, AKs were the horrific weapon du jour at the time, even though most cartel weapons didn't use 7.62x39 ammo. Did Obama smuggle in crates of ammo too?
 
Cedric said:
Umm...no. In the last two decades or so, most guns were shipped in to supply the cartels and various rebel groups from other countries. Notably, huge stocks of M-16s left in VN were shipped to Latin America to give the communist revolutionaries a "Western" appearance as if we were the ones doing the supplying. The Fast and Furious boondogle, which was designed to influence US public opinion (which you have fallen for) on the imaginary thousands of US weapons flowing to Mexico was in reality very few compared to the bulk shipments from overseas. Additionally, many cartel foot soldiers are made up of Mexican army deserters who brought their PTR-91s with them. The gold plated AKs seen in magazines are collector items for the cartel bosses because M-16s and PTR-91s don't use the same ammo. BTW, the Mexican army is switching to a 5.56mm rifle so why fool with the logistics? Bottomline: thousands of guns from the US is a deception fostered by Obama and continued by the current gov't.
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That's an argument without any hint of evidence. Mexico knows where these come from.

The one thing that might be true is that arms from one rebel group might find their way to another rebel group. International arms dealers facilitate these kinds of transactions
 
jschmidt said:
That's an argument without any hint of evidence. Mexico knows where these come from.

The one thing that might be true is that arms from one rebel group might find their way to another rebel group. International arms dealers facilitate these kinds of transactions
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You might try Rep. Issa's report on Fast and Furious and then for historical perspective read The Bear in the Back Yard available from Amazon. Plenty of evidence if you care to look for it. Fox News busted the myth of 90 percent of weapons coming from the US arming cartels and STRATFOR, a private intelligence firm said the same thing. But yeah, I would hope Mexico knows where the weapons come from, but if you want to take their word for it go ahead.
 
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