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On this day in history, November 17, 1871, National Rifle Association founded

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Civil War veterans Col. William C. Church and Gen. George Wingate created the organization after they were "dismayed by the lack of marksmanship shown by their troops," states the NRA in its online history.

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On this day in history, November 17, 1871, National Rifle Association founded by Civil War veteran officers

The National Rifle Association, which has some 5.5 million members in the U.S., was chartered in New York City on Nov. 17, 1871, by veteran Union officers of the Civil War.
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shanneba said:
Civil War veterans Col. William C. Church and Gen. George Wingate created the organization after they were "dismayed by the lack of marksmanship shown by their troops," states the NRA in its online history.

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On this day in history, November 17, 1871, National Rifle Association founded by Civil War veteran officers

The National Rifle Association, which has some 5.5 million members in the U.S., was chartered in New York City on Nov. 17, 1871, by veteran Union officers of the Civil War.
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Must have been the city boys that couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.
 
Misappropriation of funds for one. As you implied, it is WLP, at thr root of it. When long time members only hear about infighting and looming financial problems, but see 'him ' confirmed time and again as the face of the NRA. It gets disheartening. I will admit that at their core, they are still doing God's work. Standing up for our rights on the international stage, and nationally, they are a force to be reckoned with. However the optics with WLP at the helm, just terrible.
 
Funwithfuel said:
Misappropriation of funds for one. As you implied, it is WLP, at thr root of it. When long time members only hear about infighting and looming financial problems, but see 'him ' confirmed time and again as the face of the NRA. It gets disheartening. I will admit that at their core, they are still doing God's work. Standing up for our rights on the international stage, and nationally, they are a force to be reckoned with. However the optics with WLP at the helm, just terrible.
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I don't disagree with any of this.

Nevertheless they still have the most clout of any gun rights org. and without the NRA gun rights in this country would still be in the 1970s. Sure would be nice of WLP would step down for the good of the organization. In light of all the events you would think if he gave a F he would.
 
When it comes to education, training or competition, the NRA can't be beat. Its the political side that's screwing us. Along with making himself rich, WLP has gotten too caught up in playing the game and compromising us to death. 🤬

I'm still a member mainly because my gun club requires it and the fact that they are the big kids on the block. Dwindling membership just gives the antis more ammo. However, I don't give one red cent more than my annual dues.
I give my money to GOA, SAF and FPC.
 
Divide and conquer. Those seeking the demise of the NRA have done a great job in dividing the membership using one man and allegations against him to accomplish their goal. Say what you will, the NRA is our best vehicle to protect our 2A rights.
 
somorris said:
Divide and conquer. Those seeking the demise of the NRA have done a great job in dividing the membership using one man and allegations against him to accomplish their goal. Say what you will, the NRA is our best vehicle to protect our 2A rights.
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I've been saying all along that was the plan.

Sigh. Every NRA thread, even one celebrating it's birthday ( which everyone here owes a great debt of gratitude for frankly) has to devolve into this BS. Here we are all throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It's like saying
"I don't like Mitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham, Nikki Haley, Ronna McDaniel, whatever the idiot speaker of the house's name is, etc. so I'll be voting democrat until the RNC gets it's :poop: together."
 
Look, I have enough of my fought for and hard earned dollars misappropriated by the powers-that-be in Washington, to which I have little recourse besides the ballot box. I will not, BY CHOICE, continue to fund this organization, especially when there are legitimate and reasonable alternative "vehicles to protect our 2A rights."
 
Mr.W. said:
Look, I have enough of my fought for and hard earned dollars misappropriated by the powers-that-be in Washington, to which I have little recourse besides the ballot box. I will not, BY CHOICE, continue to fund this organization, especially when there are legitimate and reasonable alternative "vehicles to protect our 2A rights."
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With all due respect Mr.W, there is no "legitimate and reasonable alternative "vehicles to protect our 2A rights." to the NRA. Yes, there are other pro 2nd organizations that may deserve a portion of your $$$'s dedicated to help defend our 2nd Amd right, but none anywhere near the political clout as the NRA. Every dollar going to other organizations is another dollar less the most powerful pro 2nd lobby in existence has in defense of the 2nd on our behalf. Waiting out the departure of WLP or anyone else may just be the same wait required to see our 2nd rights reduced to nothing.

Can I say without doubt that WLP is not guilty of some shenanigans, of course I can't. But, except for those who choose to curtail $$$'s that helps to keep the NRA the strongest pro gun lobby in existence based on accusations, are in some way saying they believe in the 2nd, but not so much in the other rights. And any who thinks that withholding those $$$'s will somehow help to relieve WLP of his position, I'm afraid are simply mistaken. There are very strong forces out there who for various reasons would love to see the NRA fail, and definitely see the removal of WLP as a best opportunity to see that happen. And they're working hard to see it happen.

I've said this before and will say it again ... WLP has been accused of some pretty rank stuff, but as of now is still only accused. When/if he is convicted and the board does not remove him then, I may have a different outlook on the situation.

I've had this debate here before and don't intend to debate it again, I'm simply stating my perception. And as much as I'll fight to protect our 2nd Amd right albeit sometimes while holding my nose, so will I also fight to defend the premise of 'Innocent till proven guilty'. That is not a constitutional right per se, but does originate from the constitutional due process protections found in the 5th, 6th, 8th and 14th Amendments. I'll stand by it whether it concerns WLP or anyone on this forum. jj
 
Mr.W. said:
Look, I have enough of my fought for and hard earned dollars misappropriated by the powers-that-be in Washington, to which I have little recourse besides the ballot box. I will not, BY CHOICE, continue to fund this organization, especially when there are legitimate and reasonable alternative "vehicles to protect our 2A rights."
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I would never ask anyone to give money to anything they didn't want to. Trying to tear down the organization or influence people to quit or defund them is going against your own interests though.
 
Bassbob said:
I would never ask anyone to give money to anything they didn't want to. Trying to tear down the organization or influence people to quit or defund them is going against your own interests though.
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I am doing neither of of the things you mention. My posts clearly and concisely convey my view and opinion, and mine alone. Nothing more.
 
Mr.W. said:
I am doing neither of of the things you mention. My posts clearly and concisely convey my view and opinion, and mine alone. Nothing more.
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I never said you did brother. I was just commenting that around here not a single NRA comment comes without someone retorting about WLP and " I gave up my membership", I won't give them my money", etc..

Everyone has the right to do as they please, I just wish every god damn thread wasn't sidetracked by this bull.
 
Bassbob said:
I never said you did brother. I was just commenting that around here not a single NRA comment comes without someone retorting about WLP and " I gave up my membership", I won't give them my money", etc..

Everyone has the right to do as they please, I just wish every god damn thread wasn't sidetracked by this bull.
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Uh-huh.
 
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