On this installment of I was wrong

[Wannabewoodsman]

Y'know what.. I was wrong.

I have a lot more respect for a .22 LR because of some of the things I have learned. I've always thought it was an awesome (insert /gun) varmint rifle, training rifle, plinking rifle etc but never considered it viable for self defense (still FAR better rounds than that in my opinion but FAR better than nothing) or as a last resort riot control round.

I just learned the IDF uses and used them for riots by knee capping the violent ones. This would cause 2-3 people to carry another off the scene thereby extinguishing the riot in short order.

I also saw Paul Harrell demonstrate the 22 out of a 10/22 on his meat target. I was pretty impressed. Still, I think there are better rounds for certain purposes, but I have a lot more respect for the .22LR.

I learned all this while watching videos and planning upgrades to my 10/22.

 

[DoubleAgent]

Mhm makes sense, I mean at the end of the day, still comes out of a firearm and all firearms need to be respected. I still would not trust my life on that caliber in any way. I guess if it was the last caliber left on the planet.

 

[Recusant]

I read this article several years ago. It stated that more people had died as a result of being shot with a .22 caliber round that any other in Chicago in the 1970s.

'More people have been killed with the .22 than any...

This statement used to come up a lot, particularly referencing the lethality, and therefore suitability, of the .22 Long Rifle as a self-defense or caliber of last choice for self-defense. On the surface, it doesn't appear to make sense; however, it has been repeated frequently so maybe there's...

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[Old_Me]

the "mafia" hitmen have been using the lowly .22 for decades. makes the bullet rattle around inside the head and do a lot of damage to the brain, then death, and doesn't usually exit, and is much quieter.....

 

[KillerFord1977]

I read this article several years ago. It stated that more people had died as a result of being shot with a .22 caliber round that any other in Chicago in the 1970s.

'More people have been killed with the .22 than any...

This statement used to come up a lot, particularly referencing the lethality, and therefore suitability, of the .22 Long Rifle as a self-defense or caliber of last choice for self-defense. On the surface, it doesn't appear to make sense; however, it has been repeated frequently so maybe there's...

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You were ready HiPoint firearms / Yeet cannon …. And ADMIT it

Man oh man ….
Where’s @Annihilator

 

[Annihilator]

Could this be @Recusant new bling yeet cannon…….

 

[Hammer67]

Mossad took out more than a few bad guys back in the day with suppressed .22LR. Although I doubt it was always a "one and done" kind of thing - more like a quiet mag dump.

 

[10mmLife]

the "mafia" hitmen have been using the lowly .22 for decades. makes the bullet rattle around inside the head and do a lot of damage to the brain, then death, and doesn't usually exit, and is much quieter.....

Maybe a .22 short wouldn't leave a head but a .22lr fired point blank would most likely pass through.

I shoot thousands of .22lr a month hitting different types of targets and it may surprise you but .22lr can penetrate a lot of tough materials.

I've even shot the low powered .22lr CCI Quiets clean through a 1-3/4 thick piece of white oak standing 5ft away.

 

[Old_Me]

Maybe a .22 short wouldn't leave a head but a .22lr fired point blank would most likely pass through.

I shoot a thousands of .22lr a month hitting different types of targets and it may surprise you but .22lr can penetrate a lot of tough materials.

I've even shot the low powered .22lr CCI Quiets clean through a 1-3/4 thick piece of white oak standing 5ft away.

i know from what i had seen, a mob hitman telling his story during a mob week expose, on the local news. he claimed a 22 would rattle around in the head, doing all sorts of damage, and not exiting.

be it a 22 short, i don't know, maybe so....but it was "his choice" of weapon many times.

 

[Bassbob]

i know from what i had seen, a mob hitman telling his story during a mob week expose, on the local news. he claimed a 22 would rattle around in the head, doing all sorts of damage, and not exiting.

be it a 22 short, i don't know, maybe so....but it was "his choice" of weapon many times.

Stingers sure.

 

[Wannabewoodsman]

I read this article several years ago. It stated that more people had died as a result of being shot with a .22 caliber round that any other in Chicago in the 1970s.

'More people have been killed with the .22 than any...

This statement used to come up a lot, particularly referencing the lethality, and therefore suitability, of the .22 Long Rifle as a self-defense or caliber of last choice for self-defense. On the surface, it doesn't appear to make sense; however, it has been repeated frequently so maybe there's...

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Without reading the article, I wonder how many of those were hits? In other words, point blank executions.

 

[SimonRL]

Y'know what.. I was wrong.

I have a lot more respect for a .22 LR because of some of the things I have learned. I've always thought it was an awesome (insert /gun) varmint rifle, training rifle, plinking rifle etc but never considered it viable for self defense (still FAR better rounds than that in my opinion but FAR better than nothing) or as a last resort riot control round.

I just learned the IDF uses and used them for riots by knee capping the violent ones. This would cause 2-3 people to carry another off the scene thereby extinguishing the riot in short order.

I also saw Paul Harrell demonstrate the 22 out of a 10/22 on his meat target. I was pretty impressed. Still, I think there are better rounds for certain purposes, but I have a lot more respect for the .22LR.

I learned all this while watching videos and planning upgrades to my 10/22.

Anytime I see “awesome event here*” and the asterisk down below says *The IDF Does This” I just nod because my brain interprets it as But Don’t Think You Can Do This.

 

[Recusant]

Could this be @Recusant new bling yeet cannon…….

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I was thinking along the lines of a Saturday Night Special: inexpensive, compact, small-caliber handgun made of poor quality metal. That's why I went to hipointfirearms forum. Probably a ton of them still in use in Chicago! Probably should have looked on the Glock forum as well.

 

[Annihilator]

I was thinking along the lines of a Saturday Night Special: inexpensive, compact, small-caliber handgun made of poor quality metal. That's why I went to hipointfirearms forum. Probably a ton of them still in use in Chicago! Probably should have looked on the Glock forum as well.

 

[SimonRL]

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MY EYES!!!!!!

 

[Hammer67]

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[Annihilator]

 

[Bassbob]

That .22 kills more people thing has been making the rounds in gun circles for 40 years. I guarantee you it’s 9mm in reality today.

 

[Wannabewoodsman]

Anytime I see “awesome event here*” and the asterisk down below says *The IDF Does This” I just nod because my brain interprets it as But Don’t Think You Can Do This.

Never said that knee capping was awesome but if it works it works.

 

[SimonRL]

Never said that knee capping was awesome but if it works it works.

For me, knee capping was always the IRA’s signature. They didn’t do it because it broke up a crowd, but because it ruined the target’s life. Not awesome at all.