Restraining Device
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The Night Rider
Professional
Handcuffs are a phenomenally bad idea for private citizens
USMC1911
Master Class
I understand everybody's thoughts and opinions on handcuffs. All made valid points. We have to worry about surviving the encounter and then the Justice system after that. However I think handcuffing a person after he was using or attempting to use Deadly force against me would be the least of my worries. Once I draw my weapon or use it I am liable. The lawyers are going to come at me regardless. I retired from a large municipality Police Dept and I don’t know any cop getting his butt handed to him that wouldn’t appreciate help from a law abiding citizen. In my time I could care less if that citizen had a pair of his own cuffs. I would simply take his off and put mine on. I have been retired over 15 years and I still take training and keep abreast with my States Firearm laws. I imagine if it is legal in your State it would be a personal choice. I also believe it depends on the situation. How long is a Perp going to lay on the ground not cuffed? Do you have the energy to fight for your life again once he rested. How long will it take for the Calvary to show up? There are a lot of things to consider besides what happen next in the Justice system.
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The Night Rider
Professional
You can buy a universal handcuff at any police supply store.I have a set a renter left long ago, he was a cop. found the key too. There hangin on my bedpost now.
Our local Galls has a candy dish full of them for a Buck a piece.
The Night Rider
Professional
I guess my question is if you've already made up your mind to carry handcuffs why are you asking our opinion?
USMC1911
Master Class
I think I stated in the beginning that I carried handcuffs. I was just trying to ascertain if anybody else did and their thoughts on it. I heard some interesting points. This is a good venue to hear different opinions. Everybody brings to the table different life experiences.
Situations matter. You just added assisting an officer getting a suspect in Custody to the scenario.
That is a whole different situation than what the original poster implied. That was carrying handcuffs to use when encounter is over between normal Joe citizen and a bad guy
Keystone19250
SAINT
The post you quoted was from the original poster.
My bad I’ll have coffee first next time. LOL
Keystone19250
SAINT
Belt Fed
Ronin
I do need another pair to hang on the other bedpost.
but it's a king size bed and to far to cuff each arm. Plus i can't be around police, they may recognize me. Don't want to be put back in that padded round room. liked to never got out of the weird jacket they put on me. it was warm though.
HansGruber
Ronin
As far as having cuffs as carry in the exceedingly rare even t of having to aid an officer…
I do not need, nor want a chandelier o’ gear around my waist.
I do not need, nor want a chandelier o’ gear around my waist.
kenpomaniac1958
Master Class
And the wood chipper...
kenpomaniac1958
Master Class
I respect and think I understand what you're saying.
I worked in the mental health field for many years. Restraining a person sometimes works, sometimes it escalates a situation. Just like putting someone in choke hold or arm bar (when not applied properly) can open up a can of worms.
There's a reason why there's procedures in place for monitoring someone placed in restraints(Law Enforcement and Mental Health). In the heat of battle, things get missed especially when you're involved It's easy to lose track of time and to not put on restraints properly and so forth and the restrained person suffering permanent damage or death. It's really a liability I don't want to deal with personally.
I think in self-defense situations it's sometimes easy to over-prepare. I try to keep things simple so my Marine brain doesn't get overloaded...
HansGruber
Ronin
You keep moving the goalposts here…
Fact is, it makes precisely zero sense for anyone outside LE to have handcuffs as part of their EDC, and several reasons why it’s a very, very bad idea (you do NOT want to get painted as a wannabe cop in the event of a use of force event).
Sld1959
Ronin
Money clip, credit card case, keys, olight aaa light, Microtech left hand accessible, Cricket right hand accessible, comb, firearm, spare ammunition, cell phone. That's more than enough for me to wear on my waste or in pockets.no desire to add more but sometimes I add Gerber multipliers.
Funwithfuel
Custom
In the event that I would need to restrain... as unlikely as that is. I would resort to that which is expedient, belt, boot laces, tie, extension cord... you get the idea. Whatever is handy. Having the items on your person seems to paint you as a nut from the outset. Then there's the whole "premeditated" thing which there is seemingly no defense from if you have produced a restraint that no normal, rational person would be equipped with. Just my opinion
HansGruber
Ronin
The thing is…in what vaguely realistic situation are you going to restrain?
It’s just not there. You’re not a cop, and “citizens arrest” is a pretty iffy proposition…