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Saint Victor fail to eject round when hot

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On 2 recent trips to the range after firing about 150 rounds in less than an hour the gun jammed and failed to eject the spent casing, once pushed out of the chamber with a cleaning rod it jammed again one time and the other visit I did not try to fire more rounds. I have cleaned it both times, not sure if this is a problem with the gun getting too hot, or a dirty chamber. I am a new AR owner so I appreciate everyones advise.
 
RKM said:
On 2 recent trips to the range after firing about 150 rounds in less than an hour the gun jammed and failed to eject the spent casing, once pushed out of the chamber with a cleaning rod it jammed again one time and the other visit I did not try to fire more rounds. I have cleaned it both times, not sure if this is a problem with the gun getting too hot, or a dirty chamber. I am a new AR owner so I appreciate everyones advise.
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What ammunition are you using?
 
It is the rifle version. I cleaned it yesterday it wasn't that dirty. I will say I am new to gun cleaning and I think I need to do a better job cleaning the chamber. I will pay more attention to the chamber area from now on. Both times two of us were trading off shooting mags and the gun got pretty hot.
 
AR’s like to run wet and running it like that may have made it so hot that a case would stick or maybe the BCG got sluggish. The .223 is not a real hot load as compared to a 5.56 so it sounds like something worth discussing with Springfield customer service, there contact information can be found in your manual. I will say there are multiple threads on issues with the Victor model Saint AR’s it seams like something new every day. Have you run 5.56 through it? Does it do the same thing?
 
I’d give the chamber a good scrub then make sure the bcg is oiled and that the extractor thingy is setting in there correctly... when the issue happens again, I’d take the gun apart to see if it’s dry.

I was scared that my new AR would have the same ‘bolt stuck forward/jam’ issues that a few Saint owners have documented on YouTube ... so as soon as I received the AR, I scrubbed the chamber. There was no dirt, no crud, but tiny pieces of the red chamber flag in there.

The only problem I’ve had with my new Saint is the following: I pull the trigger, trigger stops halfway, I hear a click. I drop the mag and pull handle back, live round ejects. When the above situation happens, it’s always a PMC Bronze. It happens maybe every 1 in 80 rounds.
Your issue could be a dirty chamber, a dry bcg, or we got the same questionable batch of PMC Bronze. Since it’s happened with another brand of ammo other than pmc, it probably had something to do with the gun getting too dirty or too dry.
 
Caro said:
I’d give the chamber a good scrub then make sure the bcg is oiled and that the extractor thingy is setting in there correctly... when the issue happens again, I’d take the gun apart to see if it’s dry.

I was scared that my new AR would have the same ‘bolt stuck forward/jam’ issues that a few Saint owners have documented on YouTube ... so as soon as I received the AR, I scrubbed the chamber. There was no dirt, no crud, but tiny pieces of the red chamber flag in there.

The only problem I’ve had with my new Saint is the following: I pull the trigger, trigger stops halfway, I hear a click. I drop the mag and pull handle back, live round ejects. When the above situation happens, it’s always a PMC Bronze. It happens maybe every 1 in 80 rounds.
Your issue could be a dirty chamber, a dry bcg, or we got the same questionable batch of PMC Bronze. Since it’s happened with another brand of ammo other than pmc, it probably had something to do with the gun getting too dirty or too dry.
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THanks I will give the chamber a good cleaning.
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Below is a link to a previous thread on the subject. I'm not sure if there is anything here that is to helpful for your situation but it maybe worth a look.

Unless you are using the world's filthiest ammo you shouldn't be getting a failer to extract after 150 rounds. There maybe something gumming up the extractor whenever it gets too hot or the gun could possibly be slightly over gassed.


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RKM said:
Wanted to update everyone, it was definitely a dry chamber. My bad as they say. Chamber was not extra dirty, however I have learned to clean it better. I did a much better job with lubrication shot 160 rounds at the range today gun got good and hot, no problems!
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Awesome news!

😁👍
 
RKM said:
Wanted to update everyone, it was definitely a dry chamber. My bad as they say. Chamber was not extra dirty, however I have learned to clean it better. I did a much better job with lubrication shot 160 rounds at the range today gun got good and hot, no problems!
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Awesome.

Like they say ‘she will run dirty but she won’t run dry’

That should be a life lesson to be applied everywhere.

Just sayin.
 
OP, I’d invest in one of these. It’s an AR-15 chamber brush. It will help clean the carbon from your chamber.
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I haven’t had good luck with that chamber brush bristle thingy. I just use Otis tools and swabs.

But for some reason, I’ve had WAY more problems with carbon cooking onto the bolt waist than carbon in the chamber.
 
Caro said:
I haven’t had good luck with that chamber brush bristle thingy. I just use Otis tools and swabs.

But for some reason, I’ve had WAY more problems with carbon cooking onto the bolt waist than carbon in the chamber.
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I agree. I have carbon build up on my bolt as well.
 
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