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I'm relatively new to the sport and wondering how to evaluate my progress with a pistol. The outdoor range I go to has a 7yd, 11yd and 25yd setup. I typically shoot from the 7 or 11 with a Hellcat. What size grouping should I look for to consider myself proficient?
Thanks
 
Take a look at this


My rule of thumb for people I’ve helped: when you’re consistently hitting within a 4” circle from 25ft, and doing it without thinking too much, you’re getting proficient…

There are of course a lot of variables to consider when it comes to situations other than range fire.
 
Here are a couple low round count but challenging drills from Justin Dyal I’ve done during Ramgemaster Instructor courses. You can shoot them by yourself with a timer and print of the B8 repair centers on targets for free here

I shokt them regularly and in a standard Rangemaster course you are suppose to get a minimum of 80% and for Instructor 90%

There are several others but this is a sample!

Good luck
 

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I'm relatively new to the sport and wondering how to evaluate my progress with a pistol. The outdoor range I go to has a 7yd, 11yd and 25yd setup. I typically shoot from the 7 or 11 with a Hellcat. What size grouping should I look for to consider myself proficient?
Thanks
Do some Bill Drills, or Wilson 5x5’s and see what you can do.


 
Depends on your type of shooting.
Target shooters: One inch per 10 yards. So 1" at 10 yards or 2.5" at 25 yards is considered good.
Action shooters: roughly a 9" paper plate, "in the black", "A" zone" or "zero down" over the course depending on the discipline . Remember, speed is a factor here.
Defensive shooters: minute of bad guy is close enough.

Realistically: do the best you can and strive to improve on that. ;)
 
Here are a couple low round count but challenging drills from Justin Dyal I’ve done during Ramgemaster Instructor courses. You can shoot them by yourself with a timer and print of the B8 repair centers on targets for free here

I shokt them regularly and in a standard Rangemaster course you are suppose to get a minimum of 80% and for Instructor 90%

There are several others but this is a sample!

Good luck
All great info, thanks. I'm learning a lot here guys.
 
Depends on your type of shooting.
Target shooters: One inch per 10 yards. So 1" at 10 yards or 2.5" at 25 yards is considered good.
Action shooters: roughly a 9" paper plate, "in the black", "A" zone" or "zero down" over the course depending on the discipline . Remember, speed is a factor here.
Defensive shooters: minute of bad guy is close enough.

Realistically: do the best you can and strive to improve on that. ;)
"Do the best you can..." Great down-to-earth advice.
 
One suggestion I left out. Like the 5 yard round up or others with a Par time like the 5x5 (5 rounds 5 seconds 4 yards in 3x5 or playing cars) or the Casino drill don’t get amped up tring to do it super super fast if you Finnish it at anytime under the time and clean (or are under with penalties but clean is the goal)

You are good move on to something else.

I see a lot of folks trying to be the fastest alive and waist a lot of rounds and time on shaving off time that doesn’t matter. Now if you want to have a friendly competition with others cool but don’t make it your personality for that week or 2 it’s really counter productive!

Again good luck!
 
1)Proper Technique then accuracy

2)Accuracy then speed
3)Speed with accuracy

Everyone will be different on how long it takes from 1 to get to 3 .


Start at 5 yards, then 10 then 25
Master that

Then go speed.. 5-10-25

Then work on getting that accuracy from slow and deliberate to fast and second nature

Go at your pace
Dont advance till you master each stage
 
Hi,

I'm relatively new to the sport and wondering how to evaluate my progress with a pistol. The outdoor range I go to has a 7yd, 11yd and 25yd setup. I typically shoot from the 7 or 11 with a Hellcat. What size grouping should I look for to consider myself proficient?
Thanks

I'm relatively new myself, only a few years experience. I still have my good days and bad, but more good days lately. Instruction and practice, proper practice, and time are all necessary. Keep a log of your target scores, the ammo you use, the particular firearm, etc, so you can track your progress. Once you get slow fire accuracy at 7-10-15 yards you can start using a timer to add a little stress to your drills. The 10-10-10 drill is my favorite.

Don't be in a hurry. Keep practicing all the fundamentals and one day it will click. You'll realize what little things you can do to improve your accuracy and speed. Start with competent instruction.

What are you training for? Self defense? Target shooting? Action pistol? USPSA competition? Just curious.

Welcome to the forum. :)


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
I'm relatively new to the sport and wondering how to evaluate my progress with a pistol. The outdoor range I go to has a 7yd, 11yd and 25yd setup. I typically shoot from the 7 or 11 with a Hellcat. What size grouping should I look for to consider myself proficient?
Thanks
One more tip Barnett…
I was taught that when starting out, “slow builds smooth…Smooth builds speed”.

FWIW 😉
 
One suggestion I left out. Like the 5 yard round up or others with a Par time like the 5x5 (5 rounds 5 seconds 4 yards in 3x5 or playing cars) or the Casino drill don’t get amped up tring to do it super super fast if you Finnish it at anytime under the time and clean (or are under with penalties but clean is the goal)

You are good move on to something else.

I see a lot of folks trying to be the fastest alive and waist a lot of rounds and time on shaving off time that doesn’t matter. Now if you want to have a friendly competition with others cool but don’t make it your personality for that week or 2 it’s really counter productive!

Again good luck!
Thanks.
 
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