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Stun gun - worth the carrying?

I would actually love to have that as a tool for church security. It would be nice to have a non-lethal option that wouldn't affect the whole congregation. I would hate to have to deploy spray (I don't carry it) in the church. This would be a great way to help with one person who is out of control but not a lethal threat
 
1st: Each to their own.
2nd: Being notoriously lazy, I AIN'T CARRYING ALL THAT CRAP.
3rd: Geared more to L.E. As I see it, tasers are shaped more and more like handguns. At work the tasers and our S&W M&PS was shaped so similar that the holster where interchangeable. Just asking for a mix-up in the heat of the moment for less than well trained personal. IMHO. Training $ are finite. After all the sympathy, social justice, equity training (and how to use a fire extinguisher for the um-tenth thousands time 🤬 ) there are only so many $ left.
4th: As an aside because it has been mentioned, Peper spray/OC/Mace. I have seen it fail too many times to put much faith in it. Better than nothing no doubt, and maybe the best option for some. Yup, some people will fold like a cheap lawn chair at the faintest if whiff, but it really isn't that bad. Also, the more exposure you have to it the less effective it become. Ask me how I know.
 
Annihilator said:
While I never got hit with a stun gun, when I was still at my sheriffs dept, I inadvertently got hit with there pepper spray during there training, I can vouch 100% that 💩 is very very potent even by just getting grazed by it
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Naa . We were deliberately given direct hit with OC , and then proceeded ( or attempted ) to run to a series of simulated fighting with Red Suits .

Reactions ranged from imeadately dropping where they stood to minimal effect . ( Reactions of Malfactors on the street is another story . )
 
Actually, I have trained with being on the receiving end of these. And no they are NOT useful for personal self defense .

Ignore everything you've seen in the movies or TV, it's greatly exaggerated fiction .

In the real world, you not only need to get up close and personal, you have to manually have them restrained, such that you can hold the device in good contact with them for 5 seconds plus . Just a touch and a zap movie style , they'll just jerk away from you , and either beat feet , or be ticked off at you enough to really start punching you .

It's actual narrow niche of usefulness is more in a custody situation.

They refuse to enter / exit their cell ? Dogplie them with C.O. and get the 5 sec contact while they're pinned , to get they temporary loss of muscle control , then handcuff them , and drag them into / out of cell .

Or on the street several Ofc are present with non comply ING subject . Resists cuffing . Insufficient reaction to OC .But threading the gap where not justified to shoot , and not prefered option for ASP Shampoo .

Couple of Ofc tackle , hold against fixed surface , whatever is sufficient to hold him still , 3rd Ofc apply device for 5 seconds, then cuff , and drag to cruiser .


For private individuals defending against typical attacks , " Step 1 - Place attacker in Full Nelson and immobilize him " is not realistic or relevant.

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What IS useful is a genuine X 26 Taser ( the one that shoots the barbs with attached wires , from 20 feet away ( or a bit more). It works, from a relatively safe stand off distance .

The catch is the cost , $500 ‐ish .
 
When I was working I watched the cops Taze people twice. In both cases the prongs bounced off the persons clothes and the cops had to contact stun the guy.

I would only carry a stung gun if my employer required it and I would never bother using it
 
We are issued them and I refuse to carry one. Reason being I have seen too many failures of the device to stop an attackers actions and I have been personally tazed twice and it really wasn't bad. Now pepper spray is a whole different entity. In 33 years now as a LEO I have used pepper spray many, many times and it never failed me always produced the desired effect. Plus also being sprayed myself several times for training if given a choice I'd rather get tazed than receive a spraying any day of the week. Just my two cents.
 
I have stated else where that I have Sabre Red gel . Well the first canister that I bought , the company said I should shoot a shot blast to see how it would act so that I would know what range I had and all. So I did that but I didn't wipe the nozzle off. A little later Me and a couple other people were sitting outside and I was talking about it. So I pull it out of my pocket and show it to the others. I put it back in my pocket and as we are talking The area just to the left of my left eye starts itching so I naturally reach up and start rubbing it.

Well it turned out that I had a very minute amount of what was left on the nozzle now on my finger and I had gotten it in my eye. WOW!!!!!! I told my lady friend to go get me a bottle of water . Of course she wants to know why I want a bottle and I had to explain. Well every one thought it was very funny that I had basically maced myself.

I learned right then that I don't ever want to be maced with a full charge.
 
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