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this is why even i hate truckers now

Old_Me

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yeah, so i was a trucker for 48 years, and an instructor as well..

i took pride in my job, and went to work each shift, clean, shaved, dressed professionally, and always SOBER, as i DO NOT drink, nor take/use drugs....or smoke "wacky tabacky"

i always showed up at the customers business early, never once in my career was i ever late.

but for the past decade or so, there are no real truckers out there, only "steering wheel holders"...

meaning...idiots, morons, jerks, deadbeats, drunks, and druggies.

yeah, one is in control of an 80,000 lbs missle going at a minimum of 70 mph not only on the highways, but "back roads"

i live for the day if i ever witness a crash with any of todays steering wheel holders.....and here's why

www.yahoo.com

Truck driver in fatal Texas school bus crash arrested Friday; admitted drug use before wreck, police say

Jerry Hernandez, a 42-year-old truck driver told authorities had gotten very little sleep and used cocaine before crashing into Texas school bus.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

to think politicians thought it was "ok" to legalize weed........

some take this to mean it is OK to smoke it, even though they have a very responsible occupation.

i'm sick and tired of ths BS.
 
i get your agitation but it’s not that MJ or Alcohol is legal it’s people are idiots and have proven they can not moderate behavior

There is a larger percentage of prescription drug misuse while driving that causes deadly and serious injury crashes.

It ALL needs curtailed.

And nobody dresses up anymore truckers are just reflecting what you see as a manner of dress in any local Walmart. Slob central
 
HansGruber said:
You think this is a recent development?

You obviously weren’t paying attention.
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Correct. Dad was a career local truck driver (went out of town on an overnighter once a week), and when I was on leave in the mid-80s he and his buddies were complaining back then about the motivation or lack thereof of the new guys. Many just wanted that union card so they could go on strike, get sick, or goof off and get paid scale while doing it. Sorry lot and now we see the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
 
Cedric said:
Correct. Dad was a career local truck driver (went out of town on an overnighter once a week), and when I was on leave in the mid-80s he and his buddies were complaining back then about the motivation or lack thereof of the new guys. Many just wanted that union card so they could go on strike, get sick, or goof off and get paid scale while doing it. Sorry lot and now we see the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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the "problem truckers", has been going on for decades, for sure...yup, get that union card, and management can't mess with me, attitude.

professionalism left decades ago...

self control just ain't there as well.

but not all companies are unionized, that's a fact as well.

this is why i am pro firing, pro drug testing more often, like weekly, pro revoking for life thier license, and pro jail time,

i fear this moron that killed those people won't get more than 5 years, get his license back, maybe even under a different name, and continue his carnage.
 
ECS686 said:
i get your agitation but it’s not that MJ or Alcohol is legal it’s people are idiots and have proven they can not moderate behavior

There is a larger percentage of prescription drug misuse while driving that causes deadly and serious injury crashes.

It ALL needs curtailed.

And nobody dresses up anymore truckers are just reflecting what you see as a manner of dress in any local Walmart. Slob central
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it is not just "moderate behavior" it is illegal in the industry, and he knew that.

this is why i am pro drug testing weekly, especially after a weekend, or vacations.

yes, slobs on the loading docks, in the diners, every where.. some "first impression" the ordinary people get of truckers.

which leads to the disdain so many have of the industry.
 
Also as far as “problem employees” it’s everywhere. When almost everywhere has relaxed their standards from LE with what they look over in an applicant's past to easing firearms qualifications to you name it .


A local news channel here posted the story today

www.kxan.com

Hays CISD releases video from deadly bus crash

Hays CISD released the video of the crash between a concrete truck and a school bus that left two dead and several injured on Friday, March 22.
www.kxan.com www.kxan.com
 
I can't speak for the trucking industry,but every shop and every job site I have ever worked on had a drug and alcohol policy, which included random testing with zero tolerance and you were aware of this when you hired on.
If a test was unclear a hair sample would be taken.
This included every union or non-union job site.
I can only guess that some companies should be doing their due diligence since the government won't protect our industries.
 
ECS686 said:
Also as far as “problem employees” it’s everywhere. When almost everywhere has relaxed their standards from LE with what they look over in an applicant's past to easing firearms qualifications to you name it .


A local news channel here posted the story today

www.kxan.com

Hays CISD releases video from deadly bus crash

Hays CISD released the video of the crash between a concrete truck and a school bus that left two dead and several injured on Friday, March 22.
www.kxan.com www.kxan.com
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i saw that video the other day, and i find it very disturbing.
knowing i am watching someone about to die.
 
Wirenut said:
I can't speak for the trucking industry,but every shop and every job site I have ever worked on had a drug and alcohol policy, which included random testing with zero tolerance and you were aware of this when you hired on.
If a test was unclear a hair sample would be taken.
This included every union or non-union job site.
I can only guess that some companies should be doing their due diligence since the government won't protect our industries.
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many trucking companies have 0 tolerance as well, and will do a random, if there is suspicion.

hair samples are not DOT approved yet, at least not for pre-employment, and post accident.

but it should be, as hair sample testing i believe can go back at least 6 months.

private companies can test any way they wish however, and i personally approve that...should be universal everywhere, even in state houses, city halls, town halls, and those huge buildings in swamp city

if i recall, at least 1 reason for the DOT to not approve of hair testing, is that there are "people of color", that were testing positive, but they were not drug users, it had to do with the DNA?? of the persons hair, or something like that, i forget.
 
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Old_Me said:
yeah, so i was a trucker for 48 years, and an instructor as well..

i took pride in my job, and went to work each shift, clean, shaved, dressed professionally, and always SOBER, as i DO NOT drink, nor take/use drugs....or smoke "wacky tabacky"

i always showed up at the customers business early, never once in my career was i ever late.

but for the past decade or so, there are no real truckers out there, only "steering wheel holders"...

meaning...idiots, morons, jerks, deadbeats, drunks, and druggies.

yeah, one is in control of an 80,000 lbs missle going at a minimum of 70 mph not only on the highways, but "back roads"

i live for the day if i ever witness a crash with any of todays steering wheel holders.....and here's why

www.yahoo.com

Truck driver in fatal Texas school bus crash arrested Friday; admitted drug use before wreck, police say

Jerry Hernandez, a 42-year-old truck driver told authorities had gotten very little sleep and used cocaine before crashing into Texas school bus.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

to think politicians thought it was "ok" to legalize weed........

some take this to mean it is OK to smoke it, even though they have a very responsible occupation.

i'm sick and tired of ths BS.
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It's not just truckers Old_Me, it's society in general. I remember as a kid, when the weekend came and it was time for mama and granny to go to town for the week's shopping, we all dressed up at least to what we wore to school. Not necessarily 'Sunday best', but decent looking and presentable. It's a shame how little self respect some folks have these days.

'Course drugs were not the problem back then they are today either. I'm not real sure how that ties in, but things all across the board have changed drastically since then.
 
ECS686 said:
i get your agitation but it’s not that MJ or Alcohol is legal it’s people are idiots and have proven they can not moderate behavior

There is a larger percentage of prescription drug misuse while driving that causes deadly and serious injury crashes.

It ALL needs curtailed.

And nobody dresses up anymore truckers are just reflecting what you see as a manner of dress in any local Walmart. Slob central
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The first sentence quoted in the post above says a lot. It's always people, not necessarily any substance or action. And in my opinion, MJ should be regulated and treated just like alcohol.
 
jumpinjoe said:
The first sentence quoted in the post above says a lot. It's always people, not necessarily any substance or action. And in my opinion, MJ should be regulated and treated just like alcohol.
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I have said that many times.

If you saw the amount of costs associated with enforcing MJ sentencing it’s crazy. I retired from DOJ and saw a ton of inmates doing 30 years for non violent MJ possession or selling. Crazy. And when I was a municipal LEO I NEVER responded to a domestic or vehicle crash where MJ alone was there. Alcohol and harder stuff or prescription drug misuse all the time.
 
Cedric said:
Correct. Dad was a career local truck driver (went out of town on an overnighter once a week), and when I was on leave in the mid-80s he and his buddies were complaining back then about the motivation or lack thereof of the new guys. Many just wanted that union card so they could go on strike, get sick, or goof off and get paid scale while doing it. Sorry lot and now we see the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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Very much agree! There was time something was needed to protect workers (20's, 30's, 40's, maybe into the 50's) ... Unionizing was the answer of the day. Slowly, many unions turned from a 'collective bargaining and protection' group to a 'tolerate incompetence' group to retain the big numbers.

Now, before you jump and holler, know that I'm not necessarily anti-union. But I am anti-tolerating incompetence. Anyone in any union can think for just a short while and recognize any number of slackers who should not have had the union protection, much less the benefits 'you' had.
 
I woke up one morning before 9-11 to find a semi and trailer buried to the axles in my yard. when i came out two dudes with Turbans on their heads came out. i walked up to them and ask WTH did you idiots try to do? he didn't say nothing, it poured rain all night and the day before. i said so you tried to turn a full semi around in someone's grassy yard. one said i told him not to do it.

guess the driver couldn't speak english. dumb bastard pointed at my truck and said Hep me, Hep me. i said so you think a 9000 pound winch is going to pull a loaded semi with a trailer out. called him a dumbass and called the cops. they called a wrecker and they screwed my yard up good. took me a while to fill in the ruts.

Woulda been a different deal if it would have been after 9-11, i mighta got my gun.
 
Old_Me said:
the "problem truckers", has been going on for decades, for sure...yup, get that union card, and management can't mess with me, attitude.

professionalism left decades ago...

self control just ain't there as well.

but not all companies are unionized, that's a fact as well.

this is why i am pro firing, pro drug testing more often, like weekly, pro revoking for life thier license, and pro jail time,

i fear this moron that killed those people won't get more than 5 years, get his license back, maybe even under a different name, and continue his carnage.
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Agree! I saw a report earlier today at an office waiting room, but only got a quick look at it so no real details. But if I understood it correctly, the DA said that the driver of the truck is claiming he fell asleep at the wheel. According to the DA, if that's the case and proven, it's likely he won't be convicted of anything serious since it's not illegal to fall asleep. Even though he had admitted to using MJ and Cocaine during the past 12 hours. I'm hoping there was more to it than that, but that's all I had time to read.
 
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