Jekylmeister
Operator
Or step on a land mine.
U S soldier detained in North Korea or deserter??
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powerboatr
Professional
my son was stationed there waay back and it was pretty crapping deal for his MOS
he fixed those giant tank moving trucks, and humvees
i bet we spent 2k on sending him thermal underwear and socks
cold as a witches boot he said
he could not wait to get back stateside
he fixed those giant tank moving trucks, and humvees
i bet we spent 2k on sending him thermal underwear and socks
cold as a witches boot he said
he could not wait to get back stateside
Onewolf426
Professional
Apparently, this loser didn't want to face Military Justice back here in the States for fighting with locals in South Korea. He intentionally lost his escort at the airport, joined a tour group that went to the DMZ, and voluntarily ran across the border into the North side. Let him rot there. As a matter of fact, I would pay rocketman to KEEP him there, and do to him what he does to his own people.
Old_Me
SAINT
another in the "not my responsibility" league.
well, to have "manned up" and taken his medicine in an Army court, would have been (i'd be thinking) tamer than what he's gonna be facing if he comes back.
kenpomaniac1958
Master Class
I was a young Marine back in the late 1970's and participated in Team Spirit '77 and '78 exercises near the DMZ. It does get cold out there.
No way I'd want to go into North Korea (or take marijuana into Russia...
).
Military discipline is a cakewalk compared to the conditions most North Koreans face. Young soldiers sometimes do foolish things. Going into North Korea is more than foolish, it's downright stupid. Almost anyone who's spent time in that area knows that.
No way I'd want to go into North Korea (or take marijuana into Russia...
). Military discipline is a cakewalk compared to the conditions most North Koreans face. Young soldiers sometimes do foolish things. Going into North Korea is more than foolish, it's downright stupid. Almost anyone who's spent time in that area knows that.
Onewolf426
Professional
My problem with this, is that China may very well use this scumbag as leverage to get what they want. China owns and backs North Korea. This is the perfect opportunity for Xi to swoop in, play the "responsible adult" hero and make Kim Jong turn him over to him. Then he will demand whatever he wants in a back room deal, and get it.
Old_Me
SAINT
i say treat this like a terrorist situation, and do not negotiate.
he signed on that proverbial dotted line, he is expendable.
maybe this will be a wake up call to all the other wussies out there, that once you join the military, "buck up" and be a man. people like that make me wonder if they'd surrender in battle and give up locations of others.
cowards......that's what this snot nose punk is, a coward.
Grayfox
Professional
So genius here mixes it up with the locals, spends 47 days in a South Korean jail and is supposed to be sent home where he'll likely get a dishonorable discharge.
The fact that he's been in the Army for two years and is still a Private should tell you something right there. He ain't exactly the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.
As far as I'm concerned, North Korea can keep him.
The fact that he's been in the Army for two years and is still a Private should tell you something right there. He ain't exactly the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.
As far as I'm concerned, North Korea can keep him.
HayesGreener
Ronin
Those blue buildings in the photos face the NK headquarters building. There is no physical barrier there. President Trump visited the NK dictator there.
It is an eerie place. The South area is secured by elite ROK guards. The center building is a conference room that has a conference table with a line down the length of it. The north half of the building and conference table is technically in North Korea. The ROK guards control access to the building and the north door stays locked except when there is a north/south conference. A few years back when the guard went to lock the north door, a group of NK troops waiting on the other side yanked the door open and kidnapped the guard. Now when the ROK guards lock that door other guards hold onto his Sam Browne belt to keep him from being snatched. The paint is worn near the door where the backup guards brace themselves. These are the games they play.
It is an eerie place. The South area is secured by elite ROK guards. The center building is a conference room that has a conference table with a line down the length of it. The north half of the building and conference table is technically in North Korea. The ROK guards control access to the building and the north door stays locked except when there is a north/south conference. A few years back when the guard went to lock the north door, a group of NK troops waiting on the other side yanked the door open and kidnapped the guard. Now when the ROK guards lock that door other guards hold onto his Sam Browne belt to keep him from being snatched. The paint is worn near the door where the backup guards brace themselves. These are the games they play.
powerboatr
Professional
yes he was on his way back to ft hood for final disposition (discharge) and took off when his escorts dropped him at the ticket counterSo genius here mixes it up with the locals, spends 47 days in a South Korean jail and is supposed to be sent home where he'll likely get a dishonorable discharge.
The fact that he's been in the Army for two years and is still a Private should tell you something right there. He ain't exactly the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.
As far as I'm concerned, North Korea can keep him.
we should not waste any more time on him
Tinyman
Custom
On my tour, my friend & I were in that room with a UN guard straddling the "line". Asked him if it was permissible to step over and get a picture. He looked out the windows and said "do it quick". I stepped over and Paul took the picture then we swapped and I took his. Have those framed showing us standing in the North.
Mark May of Washington Redskins fame told me a story (USO Tour where I gave the NFL a presentation on our howitzer) when he visited that very building he posted a Washington Redskins sticker underneath the north side of the table. I later verified the fact during a tour. True story!
Area52
Professional
I don’t think Kim wants or needs Pallets of Midnight Cash
flown in for an otherwise useless no-good slacker skedaddling over the border. Political prop for a time, maybe this bozo might find his escapade worthy of a stint in the labor camp, which the Admin could deemed enslavement and politically poignant for a cash settlement to speedy release. Never let a crisis go to waste, if it saves one life, the serenade from the same choir book is about to commence. Timing the event will have to coincide with any other forthcoming whistleblower revelation.
But don’t be surprised, ransoms money is already on the table. And lots of folks benefited from that hasty, end of term, August 2016 “cash-only” payment stunt well before just the pre-flight check. The stooge is a lot smarter than everyone makes him out to be...just naming which stooges are involved could be vast, including the deserter.
No telling how these ransoms get managed. Any dime store conspiracy theorist can easily cook up a foreign policy scenario but with the current batch returning 2008-2016 advisers that are already steeped in cash payouts, anything goes.
Just piggyback on some of that stylistic Volodymir diplomacy. He’s in a bind, his ”brand” is fading as is uncle Joe’s. Although NK is in Russias corner, there’s other commodities available to sweeten a deal, maybe Vol can be willing to broker a release, a go-between, drop zone…along with some of uncle Joe’s war relief funding just throw in a couple barge loads of wheat to give it a humanitarian twist….and nobody will notice.
flown in for an otherwise useless no-good slacker skedaddling over the border. Political prop for a time, maybe this bozo might find his escapade worthy of a stint in the labor camp, which the Admin could deemed enslavement and politically poignant for a cash settlement to speedy release. Never let a crisis go to waste, if it saves one life, the serenade from the same choir book is about to commence. Timing the event will have to coincide with any other forthcoming whistleblower revelation. But don’t be surprised, ransoms money is already on the table. And lots of folks benefited from that hasty, end of term, August 2016 “cash-only” payment stunt well before just the pre-flight check. The stooge is a lot smarter than everyone makes him out to be...just naming which stooges are involved could be vast, including the deserter.
No telling how these ransoms get managed. Any dime store conspiracy theorist can easily cook up a foreign policy scenario but with the current batch returning 2008-2016 advisers that are already steeped in cash payouts, anything goes.
Just piggyback on some of that stylistic Volodymir diplomacy. He’s in a bind, his ”brand” is fading as is uncle Joe’s. Although NK is in Russias corner, there’s other commodities available to sweeten a deal, maybe Vol can be willing to broker a release, a go-between, drop zone…along with some of uncle Joe’s war relief funding just throw in a couple barge loads of wheat to give it a humanitarian twist….and nobody will notice.