Texas Buzzard
Elite
Have any of you had experience with Underwood Xtreme Defender Ammo? From what I'm reading it sounds like it can do some serious damage without over penetrating. Thought I'd see if I have and feed issues in the EMP.
UNDERWOOD AMMO
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HansGruber
Ronin
I’d stick with a good JHP.
Not buying the marketing.
Not buying the marketing.
michael.ed
Master Class
i’ve shot it in all 3 of my handguns…SA XDe, S&W Shield, and Walther PPS M2. Never had an issue with feeding, jams, etc. Shoots fine.
Texas Buzzard
Elite
It's not cheap, 20 rd at $22.95.
Texas Buzzard
Elite
I'm trying various ammo as this EMP 3" is finicky with feeding, even after 500+ rounds. Looking for that ammo that's dependable each and every time.
michael.ed
Master Class
I’m going to give Norma Ammunition a try. Their prices are about the same, but I want to try. Here’s the link…
normashooting.com
Norma Shooting | Online Handgun and Rifle Ammunition
Shop the best selection of handgun and rifle ammunition at Norma Precision Inc. - your online destination for all ammo needs. Order online today!
normashooting.com
Jfal
Professional
I've not purchased or shot it...you might to search the library of Paul Harrell on youtube...I think he has tested it in a caliber or two on chronograph, accuracy and meat targets. He's tested a lot of different self-defense ammunition and youtube has not removed most of them (yet). Just searched, he tested and posted a new video on Underwood Xtreme Defender .380 yesterday and Underwood Xtreme Defender 9mm about 3 years ago. Might be other calibers if you keep going back in his library...it's pretty extensive.
KillerFord1977
SAINT
I run it in 9mm and some of their other .357 stuff
No issues with either.
Though I have not had issues with any of the good quality defense rounds brands
StillLearning
Elite
No idea about the legitimacy of this report
2016/17
JOINT AGENCY
BALLISTICS TEST FOR DEFENSIVE HANDGUN AMMUNITION
It states
The Underwood XD uses the Lehigh Defense Xtreme Defense Technology bullet......
The data sheet shows results from Phase 2/3 with enormous wound diameters. The radial flutes work perfectly in fluid/gel. Calculated PWCs are the largest ever recorded in all calibers!
2016/17
JOINT AGENCY
BALLISTICS TEST FOR DEFENSIVE HANDGUN AMMUNITION
It states
The Underwood XD uses the Lehigh Defense Xtreme Defense Technology bullet......
The data sheet shows results from Phase 2/3 with enormous wound diameters. The radial flutes work perfectly in fluid/gel. Calculated PWCs are the largest ever recorded in all calibers!
HansGruber
Ronin
The report is bogus.
StillLearning
Elite
Curious how you determined that. I looked for ways to confirm/debunk but didn't come up with any readily available to me. It seemed fishy.......
HansGruber
Ronin
It was debunked when it came out a few years ago. I recall it being discussed in various fora at the time.
Old_Me
SAINT
shanneba
Custom
The Norma MHP was ammo of the year in 2020, it is also a lead free copper bullet but is a HP design.I’m going to give Norma Ammunition a try. Their prices are about the same, but I want to try. Here’s the link…
Norma Shooting | Online Handgun and Rifle Ammunition
Shop the best selection of handgun and rifle ammunition at Norma Precision Inc. - your online destination for all ammo needs. Order online today!
I suspect we will see continued development of lead free bullets.
I've not tried the Norma MHP, I have Hornady and Sig Sauer HP ammo for use in 9MM.
Norma does offer the MHP in .380, 9mm, 38 Special and 45 ACP
2020 Ammo of the Year: Norma MHP
First Look: Norma Monolithic Hollow Point 9 mm
Review: Norma MHP Defensive-Handgun Ammo
Texas Buzzard
Elite
Will do, thanks.
HansGruber
Ronin
Nope.I see that Norma is introducing a new NDX 9mm ammo that seems to be similar to the Underwood bullet design.
NDX - Non-eXpanding Defensive ammo
A 64 grain non expanding 9mm at a velocity of 1680 fps
Nooope.
Gimme a LE-rated JHP any day over that gimmick round.
Jfal
Professional
How many body cavities do you suppose it takes to stop those bad boys? More than one I'd guessI see that Norma is introducing a new NDX 9mm ammo that seems to be similar to the Underwood bullet design.
NDX - Non-eXpanding Defensive ammo
A 64 grain non expanding 9mm at a velocity of 1680 fps
DTL
Alpha
I've used the Underwood 9mm standard and +P in S&W Shield 2.0 and Plus as well as my Beretta APX Centurion. It's all it's advertised to be, but there are several manufacturers now with similar ammunition. They sell direct if you can't find it elsewhere, and charge a flat shipping rate under $10 when I last ordered.