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Unsecured gun=dead 2 year old

For longer than I can remember every gun my Dad owned was kept in my bedroom (later on I realized it was long guns only).
And from the time I was old enough to understand what they were, I was told that if I wanted to look at, or handle any of them, all I had to do was ask. There was no mystery, or stigma attached, I just had to ask.
As I got older, the same thing applied to other "dangerous " things.
Times are very different now, and from the looks of it, so are parents.
 
USMC6094 said:
For longer than I can remember every gun my Dad owned was kept in my bedroom (later on I realized it was long guns only).
And from the time I was old enough to understand what they were, I was told that if I wanted to look at, or handle any of them, all I had to do was ask. There was no mystery, or stigma attached, I just had to ask.
As I got older, the same thing applied to other "dangerous " things.
Times are very different now, and from the looks of it, so are parents.
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Same thing in my house growing up. These days parents are " To Busy" to raise their children properly.
 
USMC6094 said:
For longer than I can remember every gun my Dad owned was kept in my bedroom (later on I realized it was long guns only).
And from the time I was old enough to understand what they were, I was told that if I wanted to look at, or handle any of them, all I had to do was ask. There was no mystery, or stigma attached, I just had to ask.
As I got older, the same thing applied to other "dangerous " things.
Times are very different now, and from the looks of it, so are parents.
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Agree to a certain point. Not sure that many two year olds, thrn or today, have the cognitive ability to be trusted around a loaded firearm.
 
My parents were also like USMC6094's, I raised my kids the same way. In my youth the firearms were in my closet unloaded. My childrens youth they were in a gun safe. My only loaded firearm was on my person or in my bolted down handgun safe. All they needed to do was ask, there was no mystery. On some weekends we went shooting.

The two year old is a tragedy.
 
What a sad thing. It was definitely an accident brought on by the negligence of the adults, but I still feel sorry for them.. They lost the two year old and now the state is prosecuting them on top of that. A lot of us have done stupid things in our lives, but fortunately without consequences like this.
 
well for me growing up, there simply wasn't any gun in the house...when my kids were growing up, there were no guns in my house. now even with no kids (living here, only visiting or doing an over-nighter), they are locked up.

but i still have to ask a question...

why is it that so many stories about guns, good, bad or ugly......show Glock guns..??

why not a revolver..?? or any other brand of gun..????

in the end, the boyfriend and mother will face the music now, as well as they should.
 
"Guns remain the leading cause of death for children in the US."
Cowpies! It is actually automobiles, but that doesn't fit the narrative. Sad story may God hold and protect this child. I would be interested in what Mommy was doing that was so important that she could watch her child. Head stuck up her phone? Looking for "likes"? Watching the idiot box? The only reason they are being prosecuted is because a gun was involved. Had the child drowned in a mop bucket not one word would be said.:mad:
 
bc22wm said:
"Guns remain the leading cause of death for children in the US."
Cowpies! It is actually automobiles, but that doesn't fit the narrative. Sad story may God hold and protect this child. I would be interested in what Mommy was doing that was so important that she could watch her child. Head stuck up her phone? Looking for "likes"? Watching the idiot box? The only reason they are being prosecuted is because a gun was involved. Had the child drowned in a mop bucket not one word would be said.:mad:
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According to the anti-gun fascists, guns are the leading cause of death among children. Despicable how they lie and expect to go unchallenged.

Personally, when I see a "news report" that deliberately mis-states a fact in the lead, I will conclude that the balance of the story is unreliable and should be summarily dismissed.
 
Sad and tragic. Parents today don't seem to understand their responsibilities to their children. :(

bc22wm said:
"Guns remain the leading cause of death for children in the US."
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You have to bear in mind that the antis count "children" up to age 25. Many of these "children" are gangsters shot while committing crimes or shooting each other.
 
Children have poor impulse control and all the training in the World won't change that.

Research indicates the human brain, specifically the prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain that processes rational thought, doesn't fully develop until approximately 25 years of age.

Granted, some develop earlier some later but in general a juvenile's world is ruled by their amygdala. That's the part of the brain that tells the kid (against all better judgement and training) that it's OK to sneak out of the house and steal dad's car.

Train the kid but lock up the guns.

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Old_Me said:
why is it that so many stories about guns, good, bad or ugly......show Glock guns..??
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Because they're using stock photos
 
Annihilator said:
Yesr…….🤔


Sad story, when will parents be responsible and keep their guns secured.
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In Arizona and Texas, parents are legally responsible for any crime committed by a child in possession of a firearm that is owned by the parent. This means that if the child, regardless of age, commits a crime, whether it be robbery, murder, or even brandishing of a firearm, the parent can be fully charged for that crime. Yes the child could be charged too dependent on age and circumstance.
 
Back in the 90's this kinda thing happened to my ex wife's family.

Her niece locked herself out of car. BF came home from deer hunting, heard the phone message and forgot to unload or put his shotgun away before taking extra keys to her. Just left it lying on the kitchen table. 7 year old kid picked it up and somehow her niece's 3 year old daughter got shot.
 
I worked a case where an 11 year old latchkey kid killed his 11 year old friend with his dad's revolver. The loaded revolver was stored in a locked strong box in dad's night stand. The key was hidden on a hook in the closet. The kid knew the key was in the bedroom somewhere and searched the room from top to bottom until he found it. It turns out that he had been getting the revolver out and playing with it for weeks beforehand. He called his buddy and invited him over to see something cool. Within 5 minutes after arriving the friend was dead.

The parents of the shooter had complied with the law by keeping the revolver in a locked box. One of the reasons I recommend biometric locks over key locks.

Children, especially boys, are attracted to guns. Whether it is the mechanical elegance or the power guns represent, or the movies or whatever, there is a strong attraction.

NRA has an Eddie Eagle gun safety program that programs kids to "Stop, don't touch, tell an adult" if they encounter a unsecured gun. Researchers with hidden cameras leaving a dummy gun out have found that after the training girls were most likely to not touch and would tell an adult. Boys on the other hand were more likely to pick the gun up and fondle it before telling an adult, even on the heels of the Eddie Eagle program. We tested our own granddaughters by leaving a dummy gun out and they ratted me out within seconds of seeing it. Our youngest grandson at age 6 conversely got in trouble at school when he chewed his peanutbutter sandwich into the shape of a gun in the cafeterìa.

My point is, children and parents must be taught about guns and adults must have a reliable and secure gun storage solution. And never underestimate a child's curiosity or ability to circumvent safe storage. Even if your children are taught well, what happens when other children are visiting?

I saw several cases where children were killed or injured in firearm incidents that could have been prevented with simple measures. The case I cited above still haunts me more than 30 years later. Those two boys would be in their 40's now with children of their own. The repercussions of that child's death impacted the lives of more than 20 people. Gun safety and keeping firearms secure from those who should not have access are "must not fail" aspects of gun ownership.
 
last2brake said:
I think it's partly because of Glock's trigger safety.

And partly because "Glock" has become somewhat synonymous with a pistol that's not a revolver.
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Damn shame about that baby. A totally avoidable tragedy. I dunno “trigger safety” appears to be an oxymoron. I mean, when you pull the trigger you Want it to go bang. Gun should have been in a locked box. Leaving a loaded handgun laying around where little kids are present is a bad idea. That said, As long as I can remember my cousins and I all knew Grandma’s revolver was in the top drawer of her Victrola. We also knew you did NOT go into Grandma’s room unless SHE took you in there for some reason. It just was not done and I don’t ever remember ANY kid even trying it or talking about it. We were taught to respect and obey our parents.
Today there’s just the wife and I at home, but whenever ANY of the grandkids were coming over the guns were secured. Today, when the Great granddaughter ( or any other kids are coming around the firearms are in the safe.
 
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