The good news is that you'll be a life member long after you're dead.I paid $350 for my life membership through $25/year installments starting on my 18th birthday.
The good news is that you'll be a life member long after you're dead.I paid $350 for my life membership through $25/year installments starting on my 18th birthday.
Well if you get to keep voting after you die I see no reason I can't remain a member of the NRA after I die.The good news is that you'll be a life member long after you're dead.
At 2:45 this afternoon, post #71, I posted a link to a post from a Board member who gave a very detailed account of "being there." Did you miss that?... I cannot find anywhere the content of that special information or those private meetings has been divulged.
With all due respect, NO Snake, I didn't miss it ... and I actually read most of it. Am I understanding you to be implying it somehow convicted WLP? The only thing I got from it was that WLP resigned sometime a little before noon today in a closed executive meeting. But I think we already knew that and I didn't see, hear nor read even one word of real evidence. When you asked "Did you miss that?" ... I don't know, it just seemed a little harsh, maybe even condescending. I certainly hope it was not intended that way.I just read an insider's report from the NRA BOD. IMHO it's excellent. Gonna post a link to it here, for those interested.
NRA BOD happenings 1/5/24
Still sitting in Dallas as I type this. Just want you to get the lay of the land... The NRA BOD meetings have a no phone or computer policy. Your phone has to be locked into some sort of electronic blocking case - and as you exit the room you can hand your phone over to be unlocked...www.rugerforum.com
then I don't know what to say. My question was in reference to any special info or results from any private meetings that resulted in any real evidence either way, not just an article telling what we already knew. I think it's fair to say that you don't have a particularly favorable opinion of WLP, and that's perfectly fine. And if you have any real evidence at all of his guilt that would meet the criteria of 'IUPGBaRD', I'll be happy to listen to it and consider it. But I tried to make my position perfectly clear in my first reply that anything/everything I had to say was my opinion and mine alone based only on what I have seen, read, heard, and maybe a little speculation, but no 'real' evidence. And I ended my reply with these words: "Nothing written above is intended to be accusatory nor judgemental toward anyone. Just this one man's opinion." I can be as polite and respectful as polite and respectful is ... and I expect the same in return. Maybe we can just agree on that? jjAt 2:45 this afternoon, post #71, I posted a link to a post from a Board member who gave a very detailed account of "being there." Did you miss that?
Yeah it's information brother, but it's also heresay not evidence. I'd like to think our members here are all honest stand up guys. And they probably are, but nothing anyone has posted here is evidence. And this is America. If the dude is going to court they are going to need more than some guy's recounting of an NRA meeting to convict him.Joe, no problem. Maybe it's "reading comprehension" on my part. I thought the link I posted had good information and it was my impression you hadn't seen it at all, is all. I'm glad you did. No offense or disrespect was intended toward you. We good?
You are correct. I haven't been looking at this whole thing in terms of WLP going to criminal court, I've been looking at it in terms of getting rid of a BAD, corrupt leader of an organization I hold dear. I don't want WLP to go to prison, but I want him to be gone and stop embezzling money from good people.Yeah it's information brother, but it's also heresay not evidence. I'd like to think our members here are all honest stand up guys. And they probably are, but nothing anyone has posted here is evidence. And this is America. If the dude is going to court they are going to need more than some guy's recounting of an NRA meeting to convict him.
Fair enough. As I have ( Correctly) pointed out here on this board 8 million times though, throwing the baby out with the bathwater can only lead to one result. And when there is no 2A organization left that politicians are afraid of, every single member who quit will only have themselves to blame.I don’t have proof that WLP did anything illegal and belongs in prison. That scenario never even crossed my mind. I do know that the perception of impropriety has driven millions away from the NRA. It’s not just a few people here on this board. We are not dealing with a court of law here. We are dealing with a private organization which has somehow, someway eroded its reputation to millions of former members. Rightly or wrongly. Proof or no proof. When that happens, someone in the organization needs to take responsibility to earn the trust of the people back. WLP is the face of the NRA and should have been a leader long ago and stepped down. Whether he did anything wrong or not. Because he didn’t, the NRA has suffered. JMO and apparently the opinion of millions of others. Not all, but a lot…
I’m not sure any gun people really wanted to throw the baby out with the bath water, I know I didn’t. And I’m all for the NRA making a STRONG comeback. But maybe it took a drop in membership and revenues for some changes to be made in leadership. Sometimes change hurts, but in the long run, it’s for the best. Time will tell here, but I think/hope the NRA will come back stronger than ever.Fair enough. As I have ( Correctly) pointed out here on this board 8 million times though, throwing the baby out with the bathwater can only lead to one result. And when there is no 2A organization left that politicians are afraid of, every single member who quit will only have themselves to blame.
The thing is WLP didn't step down because of dwindling membership. It's looking like he stepped down because they're fixing to nail his butt to a tree in court. So abandoning the NRA, as of right now, has had zero effect other than to weaken it as a political force. Which no matter what anyone says or what WLP did, is bad for ALL GUN OWNERS. WLP may very well be guilty of all kinds of chicanery, but one thing he is not guilty of is abandoning the fight for gun rights.I’m not sure any gun people really wanted to throw the baby out with the bath water, I know I didn’t. And I’m all for the NRA making a STRONG comeback. But maybe it took a drop in membership and revenues for some changes to be made in leadership. Sometimes change hurts, but in the long run, it’s for the best. Time will tell here, but I think/hope the NRA will come back stronger than ever.
No offense taken. And you make some good points.The thing is WLP didn't step down because of dwindling membership. It's looking like he stepped down because they're fixing to nail his butt to a tree in court. So abandoning the NRA, as of right now, has had zero effect other than to weaken it as a political force. Which no matter what anyone says or what WLP did, is bad for ALL GUN OWNERS. WLP may very well be guilty of all kinds of chicanery, but one thing he is not guilty of is abandoning the fight for gun rights.
While we're on that topic, let me again point out that over the last few years I have seen several people complain, saying things like " Where is the NRA", as if they weren't involved in this or that lawsuit or as if they had jumped in at the last minute on the coat tails of GOA or one of the other upstarts. Those people need to do some actual research before stating their assumptions as fact. Look into who's lawyers were doing what. Filing Amicus Curiae briefs and bankrolling legal teams. The fact is the vast majority of 2A rights you enjoy today that you didn't have 30 or 40 years ago you would still not have if not for the NRA. Concealed Carry, Constitutional Carry, those are 100% brought to you courtesy of the NRA.
Let me end my little rant here by clarifying that I am not directing this specifically to you @uspatriot1960 or anyone in particular. I just happened upon these thoughts in my head while reading your post. So please don't take offense or assume I was trying to start an argument with you. In fact I pretty much agree with you.
The thing is WLP didn't step down because of dwindling membership. It's looking like he stepped down because they're fixing to nail his butt to a tree in court.