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Weapon Lights Thread?

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Like Keystone 19250, I have dim blue LED night lights in every room and hallway. They're very small plug-in, mounted low in standard sockets and give just enough light to identify what's nearby without being annoying. Being LED's, they don't use much electricity at all and none have gone out in 8 years. I also have a small tactical handheld on the nightstand in case of power failure and for EDC. One of my EDC's has a laser/light that, as learned in trainings, not to activate prematurely.
 
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Lock n' Load said:
Like Keystone 19250, I have dim blue LED night lights in every room and hallway. They're very small plug-in, mounted low in standard sockets and give just enough light to identify what's nearby without being annoying. Being LED's, they don't use much electricity at all and none have gone out in 8 years. I also have a small tactical handheld on the nightstand in case of power failure and for EDC. One of my EDC's has a laser/light that, as learned in trainings, not to activate prematurely.
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OK, you guys convinced me: this weekend I'm going to remove my headlights from my truck since I have a reading light in the cabin. After all, I'm only a civilian now, so it's about time I stop trying to see in the dark!

I don't know why it's so outrageous to want to be able to see in the dark but putting a bayonet and a shotgun is perfectly fine as long as we have night lights (didn't say you two advocated that, but it's just a generic observation)? Without even going down the road of home/property invasion by humans, some of us have farms, barns, woods, live stock, cattle, or simply 2 story houses, a nightlight won't do guys.

Being able to identify the source of the "bump" or the reason why dogs are growling fiercely doesn't necessarily translate into a life & death battle or shooting at anything. And that doesn't mean there are claymores and trip wires everywhere either. A fox will run away from light, a coyote might or might not, a bear or a moose is probably going to charge unless the light is strong and obnoxious. All of these encounters happen at night, and I wasn't born with night vision, so I feel like I need a light.

And to top it off: I DO LIKE LIGHTS :D
 
Pro Digy II said:
OK, you guys convinced me: this weekend I'm going to remove my headlights from my truck since I have a reading light in the cabin. After all, I'm only a civilian now, so it's about time I stop trying to see in the dark!

I don't know why it's so outrageous to want to be able to see in the dark but putting a bayonet and a shotgun is perfectly fine as long as we have night lights (didn't say you two advocated that, but it's just a generic observation)? Without even going down the road of home/property invasion by humans, some of us have farms, barns, woods, live stock, cattle, or simply 2 story houses, a nightlight won't do guys.

Being able to identify the source of the "bump" or the reason why dogs are growling fiercely doesn't necessarily translate into a life & death battle or shooting at anything. And that doesn't mean there are claymores and trip wires everywhere either. A fox will run away from light, a coyote might or might not, a bear or a moose is probably going to charge unless the light is strong and obnoxious. All of these encounters happen at night, and I wasn't born with night vision, so I feel like I need a light.

And to top it off: I DO LIKE LIGHTS :D
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No one is saying it's outrageous. Remember, everything ain't for everybody. And weapon mounted lights are rather minimally useful for most people. And the only way they actually are useful for anybody is if you know and understand how to use them correctly and effectively. I mean it isn't a flashlight. ;)
 
Not bragging in any way shape or form here but I went to dim light- low light-total darkness instructor school using handguns and long guns with and without lights. Interesting course but I personally only have a weapon mounted light on my ar's. They haven't sold me on placing one on any of my handguns and in 32 yrs as a LEO I have searched and checked many buildings, residences and stretches of woods and so far it has worked out quite well for me. Toe ach their own this is just my two cents..
 
USMC6094 said:
Boy, talk about blowing a topic out of proportion.

The way I see it is, you want a light, have a light, you don't want a light, don't have one...........

Plain and simple.......
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No, not blowing out of proportion, simply replying to comments, it's a discussion :)

I do agree with you and wasn't trying to convince anybody to have a light if they didn't want to. Nor was I asking "should I or should I not have a light". I just wanted to see what kind others who do believe they need a light have, and potentially discuss why. Many have responded that way, thank you.

I obviously meant no disrespect to the ones who responded otherwise. But at the same time, it gets exhausting to hear "you don't need this and that because you're only a civilian" associated with the apparently magic word LEO. No disrespect meant either, but Law Enforcement of civilians is done by civilians.
 
Pro Digy II said:
No, not blowing out of proportion, simply replying to comments, it's a discussion :)

I do agree with you and wasn't trying to convince anybody to have a light if they didn't want to. Nor was I asking "should I or should I not have a light". I just wanted to see what kind others who do believe they need a light have, and potentially discuss why. Many have responded that way, thank you.

I obviously meant no disrespect to the ones who responded otherwise. But at the same time, it gets exhausting to hear "you don't need this and that because you're only a civilian" associated with the apparently magic word LEO. No disrespect meant either, but Law Enforcement of civilians is done by civilians.
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Around here when someone references being a civilian it's usually to denote that the gear they buy isn't destined for duty. They aren't making their living with it. Either that or referencing the duty of say a LEO compared to that of a bystander. As well as the legal ramifications of a civilian doing any myriad of things LEO are tasked with. In this example pointing a gun at someone so they can see them with their weapon light.


That said I can think of situations where civilians could definitely use a WML. Almost none of which apply to me personally, but everything ain't for everybody. :)
 
Bassbob said:
Around here when someone references being a civilian it's usually to denote that the gear they buy isn't destined for duty. They aren't making their living with it. Either that or referencing the duty of say a LEO compared to that of a bystander. As well as the legal ramifications of a civilian doing any myriad of things LEO are tasked with. In this example pointing a gun at someone so they can see them with their weapon light.


That said I can think of situations where civilians could definitely use a WML. Almost none of which apply to me personally, but everything ain't for everybody. :)
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OK, I see your point (and recognize the double standard as well). Don't worry, I am a law abiding citizen, and support my local PD organizations and K9 units. No problem there. But when we start getting into "you can't use the good stuff", then we're erring into the "nobody needs 30-round mags" territory, which leads to unpleasant situations.

That being said, my "duty" is protecting me and my family at all times, so I see these tools as "duty" equipment 24/7, whether I have immunity over defending myself or not. And I still want to use what is appropriate in the first few minutes of an encounter when nobody else will be there for my defense. Again, not knocking the PD, there are far more crimes happening at any given time than cops available to respond to them in a timely manner, that is a sad reality.

But point well taken, civilized people can disagree and discuss without calling it "hate" and "phobia", it's nice when that happens. Now, let's move on to knives and lasers 🤣 😂🤣
 
Pro Digy II said:
OK, I see your point (and recognize the double standard as well). Don't worry, I am a law abiding citizen, and support my local PD organizations and K9 units. No problem there. But when we start getting into "you can't use the good stuff", then we're erring into the "nobody needs 30-round mags" territory, which leads to unpleasant situations.

That being said, my "duty" is protecting me and my family at all times, so I see these tools as "duty" equipment 24/7, whether I have immunity over defending myself or not. And I still want to use what is appropriate in the first few minutes of an encounter when nobody else will be there for my defense. Again, not knocking the PD, there are far more crimes happening at any given time than cops available to respond to them in a timely manner, that is a sad reality.

But point well taken, civilized people can disagree and discuss without calling it "hate" and "phobia", it's nice when that happens. Now, let's move on to knives and lasers 🤣 😂🤣
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I don't disagree with any of this. I was more referring to the fact that I almost guarantee I will never for example be searching through an abandoned warehouse in the middle of the night for a dangerous individual. Like I said, there are plenty of legitimate uses for a WML for civilians and no one needs to justify anything to anyone.

And for the record I do own a few guns with them. None of which are pistols and none of which will ever be pistols. You know, everything ain't for everybody and all that. :)
 
Pro Digy II said:
No, not blowing out of proportion, simply replying to comments, it's a discussion :)

I do agree with you and wasn't trying to convince anybody to have a light if they didn't want to. Nor was I asking "should I or should I not have a light". I just wanted to see what kind others who do believe they need a light have, and potentially discuss why. Many have responded that way, thank you.

I obviously meant no disrespect to the ones who responded otherwise. But at the same time, it gets exhausting to hear "you don't need this and that because you're only a civilian" associated with the apparently magic word LEO. No disrespect meant either, but Law Enforcement of civilians is done by civilians.
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No worries My Friend, I was just trying to bring the perspective of the thread back to its sweet spot lol
 
wolfpack076 said:
Not bragging in any way shape or form here but I went to dim light- low light-total darkness instructor school using handguns and long guns with and without lights. Interesting course but I personally only have a weapon mounted light on my ar's. They haven't sold me on placing one on any of my handguns and in 32 yrs as a LEO I have searched and checked many buildings, residences and stretches of woods and so far it has worked out quite well for me. Toe ach their own this is just my two cents..
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I didn't read any bragging, experience shared is highly appreciated! Our range has low-light events on a regular basis and I don't miss a single one of them, it is always fascinating how the mind works and switches focus on other senses when impaired. Training in low/no light highlights some non-obvious bad or poor habits, and makes one aware of many deficiencies.
 
wolfpack076 said:
Not bragging in any way shape or form here but I went to dim light- low light-total darkness instructor school using handguns and long guns with and without lights. Interesting course but I personally only have a weapon mounted light on my ar's. They haven't sold me on placing one on any of my handguns and in 32 yrs as a LEO I have searched and checked many buildings, residences and stretches of woods and so far it has worked out quite well for me. Toe ach their own this is just my two cents..
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Yeah.. here in AZ we are kind of required to do night shoots and training. I did eventually go with a TLR on the pistol, but, always have the handheld on the belt. It's just not practical to unholster and use a weapon light in every situation.
 
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