What is realistic solution to the criminal elements…

[The Night Rider]

Where the hell did you get misdemeanor crimes?
I’m talking about the worst of the worst criminals. Here are some of the victims that I am talking about.
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I was only talking about entering the country.

I went and did some research and it is a felony to cross the border illegally. I was wrong

I still think we're better off putting the money into securing the border and deportation than incarceration.

 

[The Night Rider]

fly over venezuela, give passengers parachutes and open the cargo door, climb fast nose high ad drop them out

Even the kids?

 

[SimonRL]

Wait a minute, who’s going to mow my lawn?

 

[HayesGreener]

Some may be able to apply for entry if they have something to offer. There must be an iron resolve to remove the miscreants from our country. Law enforcement must walk a tightrope between efficient enforcement, and cruelty. We must never cross the line lest we lose popular support for deportation. You can stay in a 4 star hotel tonight, but you are by God getting on that plane tomorrow. Don't deport the violent ones. Lock their asses up in maximum security and then deport them after they serve out their time. There can be no pussyfooting.

 

[HayesGreener]

Wait a minute, who’s going to mow my lawn?

Get Mrs Simon a nice zero turn

 

[Old_Me]

Wait a minute, who’s going to mow my lawn?

the Chiquita banana man from Idaho...??

 

[mikep]

Wait a minute, who’s going to mow my lawn?

How big is your yard and can i use your mower? Trimming and blowing off the clippings is extra. I do real good work. So much so, that the local mexicans hire me to do their yards.

 

[Jfal]

That have entered our country illegally? Given that Venezuela more than likely won’t take suspected TDA members back is it feasible to send them to Gitmo?
This is a bit of a stretch but put Cuba on notice we’ll mass release them into their country.
Thoughts from the board elders?

Strap a parachute on 'em and push 'em out the back of a C-130 while over-flying whatever place from whence they came. At least the MS13 and Trea-whateveah dudes.

 

[papa]

Strap a parachute on 'em and push 'em out the back of a C-130 while over-flying whatever place from whence they came. At least the MS13 and Trea-whateveah dudes.

Parachutes cost money you know.

 

[Lab Us]

Agree with several others that securing BOTH borders is priority #1. #2 should be rounding up the gang members taking over apartments across the US and fly them back to Venezuela. They’re capable of surviving their hostile militarized government and I’ve not seen a one with any family members. To me, they are the most immediate threat (unless there are identified terrorists we’re unaware of until Trump’s admin gets access to records, then they become #2 and the Venezuelan gang(s) become #3.

I don’t know any US citizens opposed to LEGAL immigration and I’d expect that to continue. ILLEGAL immigration needs to stop with perpetrators sent back to any country that allowed them a route to the US. I’m still conflicted on what to do with those currently here illegally that are legitimately contributing (working, paying taxes, paying for their own health insurance, etc). ANY path to citizenship needs to be long and closely tracked, with no US citizen perks - like voting in any elections - until ALL requirements met. Any crimes committed in that time results in immediate deportation to their country of origin (and yes I know there are hurdles to that). And the very first step should be they are required to come forward within 60-90 days and declare their ILLEGAL status. After that time, if they’re found out, then, again, immediately deported.

 

[papa]

I'm not conflicted about it. If they crossed our border illegally , then they need to ship out and try under legal means. I don't care if they are working and paying taxes. They are still illegals without the right to stay.

 

[Lab Us]

I'm not conflicted about it. If they crossed our border illegally , then they need to ship out and try under legal means. I don't care if they are working and paying taxes. They are still illegals without the right to stay.

Not that I disagree, I just don’t think there’s any REAL way to locate and remove potentially 20 million people. Just floating some thoughts. At least if they identified themselves, we’d locate some that might otherwise never be found. And I don’t mean using that as a way to trick them to identify, then deport.

I also forgot to add that another priority should be immediately stopping the being born on US soil equals citizenship nonsense. Only those born to US citizens should be considered a legal US citizen at birth.

 

[Onewolf426]

Realistic solution. Start shut down the border. No you can't stop everyone, but, we can do 1000X better than we are, and illegal entry is automatic deportation and never to be able to hold a visa or green card. Next with no taxpayer funded help. No food, medical, housing, nothing, nada, zip. Next anyone found guilty to allowing Illegals to work 10 in prison years for each offence for the person doing the heiring. If it is a corp. 5 years for the CEO, (Respondeat superior & Vicarious liability).
Make life so hard and miserable that no wants to come illegally, and those that are here can't wait to get away.
Don't give me any of that crap "jobs Americans won't do". They would work if the jobs were available, and they couldn't live easier and better than the working man and woman by sitting on their @$$. If we do need workers, temporary work visas can be used and monitored. Key words are temporary and monitored.
Here in ME Lepage put in a policy that able-bodied, single adults hard to show proof of looking or work or vol. a few hours of their time to receive EBT. The number of people receiving EBT dropped.

I would add, those who have no criminal record and have children could get permanent residence with NO welfare, food stamps, medicare/medicade, not allowed to vote. Their children, once they reach age, would have to apply for citizenship. I find this not only a workable solution, but something that will curtail any further incursions. Those who are criminals, will work the fields and roads as part of their prison sentence, with immediate death penalty for murderers, rapists, pedophiles, etc. Those working in the prison system, will be working to pay for the ones who came here legally.

 

[Mr.W.]

Secure our borders at once, without fail. Reassign individuals from the democrats bloated, weaponized alphabet agencies to more essential tasks relating to continued security and deportation operations.

 

[bc22wm]

I forgot to mention we need to revisit the 14th Amendment. 14A was an abolitionist answer to the American Colonization Society and their wingnut ideas about Liberia. It was not intended to allow a foreign national to give birth on US soil and produce an American Citizen.

 

[bc22wm]

I would add, those who have no criminal record and have children could get permanent residence with NO welfare, food stamps, medicare/medicade, not allowed to vote. Their children, once they reach age, would have to apply for citizenship.

Sorry but NOPE. As children we all enjoy/suffer the consequences of the actions of our parents. This is just a work around to allow some who are no supposed to be here stay. How do we know that the child is a child of that adult? DNA test. Who pays for that? Plus we would have to have another Gov. agency/department. AACS, Agency of alien child services, another draw on the tax $$$. Another agency to expand and stick their noses and fingers into EVERYONES lives.
Actually now that I think on it, make that a hard NO.
Guess I'm a hard-hearted SOB. Let's worry about our own children first.

 

[Shibadog]

I’m an old dumb country boy, but it seems to me if you prohibited ALL services to illegals and put a fine of $250k per head on anyone who Hires an illegal them most of the problem would resolve itself (no incentive to come here or be here). Then throw the entire book at those illegals who commit crimes.