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The Echelon looks amazing! More than what I want to spend, but got an email from Springfield Armory and several other places that show different configurations. Even with a threaded barrel. Not sure if it is longer than the non threaded? Possibly? I will keep my eye and other eye on this one! The removable and swappable trigger groups seem interesting, but why that way? Are they the first since it says inovative?
 
The Echelon looks amazing! More than what I want to spend, but got an email from Springfield Armory and several other places that show different configurations. Even with a threaded barrel. Not sure if it is longer than the non threaded? Possibly? I will keep my eye and other eye on this one! The removable and swappable trigger groups seem interesting, but why that way? Are they the first since it says inovative?
The thread barrel on one model shows lenght of 5.28" while non threaded model shows barrel as 4.5". The link below is from their website and if you go to the bottom of that link, it lists all their models with links for each on detailed spec etc.
The removable Trigger group housing isn't new as others such as Sig (P320, P365), Beretta (APX), and some others had this before. It does look like the VIS system of accepting multiple optics (30), with out having to have plates (meaning they mount directly to the slide), is unique. It also has some interesting safety features that hopefully make it drop safe or if some damage is done to the primary sear a secondary sear will prevent striker from engaging.


 
The thread barrel on one model shows lenght of 5.28" while non threaded model shows barrel as 4.5". The link below is from their website and if you go to the bottom of that link, it lists all their models with links for each on detailed spec etc.
The removable Trigger group housing isn't new as others such as Sig (P320, P365), Beretta (APX), and some others had this before. It does look like the VIS system of accepting multiple optics (30), with out having to have plates (meaning they mount directly to the slide), is unique. It also has some interesting safety features that hopefully make it drop safe or if some damage is done to the primary sear a secondary sear will prevent striker from engaging.


It looks like Steyr was the first to hold a patent for a removable pistol chassis which was filed in 1999 and approved in 2001. Sig and Beretta both were sued by Steyr for patent infringement.

 
It looks like Steyr was the first to hold a patent for a removable pistol chassis which was filed in 1999 and approved in 2001. Sig and Beretta both were sued by Steyr for patent infringement.

Yeah, and according to XDman's Echelon video, he mentioned IWI (or was it IMI), and Ruger had models with removable trigger groups (besides Sig which he also mentioned). I'm not familiar with the Ruger and IWI(?) models, but it would be interesting to learning more about them.
 
Yeah, and according to XDman's Echelon video, he mentioned IWI (or was it IMI), and Ruger had models with removable trigger groups (besides Sig which he also mentioned). I'm not familiar with the Ruger and IWI(?) models, but it would be interesting to learning more about them.
I've never heard of those models either and now my interest is piqued.
 
Israeli Weapons Industries. Israeli Military Industries also called Ta'as, primarily supplies the IDF.

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Yep, that IMI. Except that they spun of IWI to manufacture for the civilian market while Ta'as ( IMI)is pretty much military only.
Action Arms began importation of a semi-automatic version of the Uzi in 1980. The guns were made by IMI in Israel and were the same outstanding quality as the IMI submachine gun. This gun started its life as a semi, but was sent to Billistics (Bill Wittsteen), a company in Conneticut for the conversion. His conversions are regarded as some of the best that were done. This Uzi has a registered bolt, and it came from Michael Brown's company called Group Industries of Louisville, Kentucky.
 
Yeah, and according to XDman's Echelon video, he mentioned IWI (or was it IMI), and Ruger had models with removable trigger groups (besides Sig which he also mentioned). I'm not familiar with the Ruger and IWI(?) models, but it would be interesting to learning more about them.
Yeah, and according to XDman's Echelon video, he mentioned IWI (or was it IMI), and Ruger had models with removable trigger groups (besides Sig which he also mentioned). I'm not familiar with the Ruger and IWI(?) models, but it would be interesting to learning more about them.
IWI Masada
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Yeah, and according to XDman's Echelon video, he mentioned IWI (or was it IMI), and Ruger had models with removable trigger groups (besides Sig which he also mentioned). I'm not familiar with the Ruger and IWI(?) models, but it would be interesting to learning more about them.
Pretty much all the Ruger guns use a chassis including the 5.7 with grip modules The LC series , EC etc.
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Totally unaware of this by Ruger. I knew the older hammer fired Sig’s P250’s also had the serialized removable FCUs, but I’m now learning there were/are several manufacturers with this feature. Learning something new everyday, thanks again James.
Oh Keltec, SCCY pistols
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It looks like Steyr was the first to hold a patent for a removable pistol chassis which was filed in 1999 and approved in 2001. Sig and Beretta both were sued by Steyr for patent infringement.

That’s actually one I did not know about. The Steyr is one of the few guns I have never shot, or worked on before so I had never disassembled one. Ironic since Steyr USA is 30 min south of my house.
 
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