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Ammo Availability Predictions

Martino said:
I’m a 57 yr old real stubborn Italian American lol I wouldn’t pay that on principle alone... lol my father if he were here we’d be engineering cheaper ways to make ammo and we’d be making our own. With or without the purchased components lol see in his day they made anything that wasn’t available.. that’s why I became an engineer my whole life growing up was engineering school .. what’s happening is very disturbing to me because my family escaped Italy to be free from Mussolini and Hitler ... and every single building block move that brought them to power has just happens here... and people are in denial... I don’t want to lose this country too to the fascist tyranny that we are letting our government become... evil will propagate that’s what it dose.... but we need to stop it and we aren’t and haven’t done anything...my father and his six brothers came here and once of age joined the war... all faught saw action and lived ... only to die and let the next generations of idiots and children lose it right back.... I worked for the DoD for 40 yr .. this is an attack everything that’s happened since Obama got in .. hey im old lol I’m worried about the kids... it’s not enough to be smart.. there comes a day that a fight is right.. sorry had to get that off of my chest.. and the people here are smart enough to understand
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d'accordo amico mio, I never thought I would see in my lifetime what is happening today in this country. I also think the time for quiet compliance is over. The fascists have shown their hand on day one of this administration. We must stand up or we will be doomed to repeat a very bleak moment in history.
saluti
 
Ammo, like everything else is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Some of us have had a stockpile for some time. A few of us treat it like an investment. Others have been buying it as they are ready to use it.

Yes, ammo prices have spiked in the last year. Several years ago some calibers spiked because of shortages. That certainly made shooting more expensive for those who were buying it when ready to go shooting. Some people have stopped shooting altogether either because the ammo they want is priced out of their reach or because they are angry. Others simply pay the prices asked and continue shooting.

It worries me that clay clubs (trap, skeet, sporting clays, five stand) are on the verge of closing because of a lack of shooters. Clay shooters shoot a lot of ammo so they really are feeling the price increases and shortages. (The average clay shooter will go through 100 rounds of 12 gauge ammo a day, and some will go though 400 rounds a day 5-7 days a week). They were paying around $6.50 for cheap ammo and around $9,00 a box (25) for the better stuff.. Those prices, while not jumping up like centerfire rounds, have doubled in the last few months.

The truth is, I'm not sure these prices aren't going to be permanent.
 
ChanceMcCall said:
Ammo, like everything else is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

Some of us have had a stockpile for some time. A few of us treat it like an investment. Others have been buying it as they are ready to use it.

Yes, ammo prices have spiked in the last year. Several years ago some calibers spiked because of shortages. That certainly made shooting more expensive for those who were buying it when ready to go shooting. Some people have stopped shooting altogether either because the ammo they want is priced out of their reach or because they are angry. Others simply pay the prices asked and continue shooting.

It worries me that clay clubs (trap, skeet, sporting clays, five stand) are on the verge of closing because of a lack of shooters. Clay shooters shoot a lot of ammo so they really are feeling the price increases and shortages. (The average clay shooter will go through 100 rounds of 12 gauge ammo a day, and some will go though 400 rounds a day 5-7 days a week). They were paying around $6.50 for cheap ammo and around $9,00 a box (25) for the better stuff.. Those prices, while not jumping up like centerfire rounds, have doubled in the last few months.

The truth is, I'm not sure these prices aren't going to be permanent.
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Buckshot and slugs have become absurdly priced too. Some unethical gun store I will never patronize again wanted $89 for a box of 25 shells of Estate brand 00 buckshot.

They were also trying to charge $35 for a box of 20 green tip PMC 556.

These type of prices will not be permanent from the gougers, and we ought to punish them in normal times by denying them our business once ammo casually fills the shelves of Academy again.
 
ChanceMcCall said:
The truth is, I'm not sure these prices aren't going to be permanent.
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Well if they pass the forced minimum-wage increase...EVERYTHING will get more expensive.

It's called inflation.

Paying twice as much (minimum wage bump to $15/hr) for the same product (one hour of basic labor), with no increase in product value (i.e. you aren't getting more hours for your dollars), devalues the dollar.

Across the board.

For everyone.

And when the dollar is worth less...a product with a static value - in this case, ammunition, but it will apply to food, fuel, clothing, manufactured goods like automobiles, you name it - will require more dollars per unit of product.
 
Peglegjoe said:
Well if they pass the forced minimum-wage increase...EVERYTHING will get more expensive.

It's called inflation.

Paying twice as much (minimum wage bump to $15/hr) for the same product (one hour of basic labor), with no increase in product value (i.e. you aren't getting more hours for your dollars), devalues the dollar.

Across the board.

For everyone.

And when the dollar is worth less...a product with a static value - in this case, ammunition, but it will apply to food, fuel, clothing, manufactured goods like automobiles, you name it - will require more dollars per unit of product.
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And lead to more automation to cut back on human resource overhead.
 
Peglegjoe said:
Well if they pass the forced minimum-wage increase...EVERYTHING will get more expensive.

It's called inflation.

Paying twice as much (minimum wage bump to $15/hr) for the same product (one hour of basic labor), with no increase in product value (i.e. you aren't getting more hours for your dollars), devalues the dollar.

Across the board.

For everyone.

And when the dollar is worth less...a product with a static value - in this case, ammunition, but it will apply to food, fuel, clothing, manufactured goods like automobiles, you name it - will require more dollars per unit of product.
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Just wrote Congressman similar message when asked my opinion about $15. minimum wage. He had to ask? It will increase inflation. Higher minimum wage sounds real good at 1st, but devalues the dollar and increases product prices and services for everyone. Is an across the board lose, lose for everyone.
 
TacticalPirate said:
Buckshot and slugs have become absurdly priced too. Some unethical gun store I will never patronize again wanted $89 for a box of 25 shells of Estate brand 00 buckshot.

They were also trying to charge $35 for a box of 20 green tip PMC 556.

These type of prices will not be permanent from the gougers, and we ought to punish them in normal times by denying them our business once ammo casually fills the shelves of Academy again.
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Estate is garbage. I saw it somewhere the other day for like $90 for 250 rounds of 00B. I still passed.

I definitely have a new list of dealers I will not be patronizing even after the crisis is over. I don’t have that list in front of me but I can tell you Gun Mag Warehouse and Ammunition Depot are both on the list.
 
Bassbob said:
Estate is garbage. I saw it somewhere the other day for like $90 for 250 rounds of 00B. I still passed.

I definitely have a new list of dealers I will not be patronizing even after the crisis is over. I don’t have that list in front of me but I can tell you Gun Mag Warehouse and Ammunition Depot are both on the list.
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If you patronize the Austin area, steer clear of Guns Plus, a local shop price gouging as if the dollar has collapsed.
 
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