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The Night Rider said:
Does anybody here remember Project Exile?

In 1997 Richmond Virginia started prosecuting gun crimes in Federal Court and the Federal Court sentenced people to a mandatory minimum five years in federal prison. If I understand correctly they were also prosecuting Prohibited Peesons Federaly and sending them to Federal Prison.

From Wikipedia

Within the first year (1997–1998) Project Exile resulted in:[2]

  • The first Exile case made by Officer Gene Baskette, and Officer Mark Wooten of the Street Enforcement Unit of the Richmond Police Dept.
  • 372 persons indicted for Federal gun violations.
  • 440 illegally possessed guns seized.
  • 300 persons arrested or held in State custody.
  • 222 arrestees (more than 74 percent) held without bond.
  • 247 persons convicted.
  • 196 persons sentenced to an average of 55 months of imprisonment.
During the first year of Project Exile (1998), homicides in Richmond declined 33%, for the lowest number since 1987, and armed robberies declined 30%. In 1999, homicides declined another 21%.[2] By 2007, homicides in Richmond were down to 57 compared to 122 in the year before Project Exile.[4]

I read somewhere that a big part of the program was that offenders were sent to Federal Prisons away from their home state. Where they didn't know anyone in the Prison and it was too far for their family to go visit them. Which also had a deterrent effect but I can't find any documentation on that.

Unfortunately the program was discontinued because (It actually worked) it was found to "disproportionately affect African Americans."

Although, I'm hearing that certain places are bringing it back.
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Sorta tells you everything you need to know about the woke prosecutors ( soros funded) and the defund the police movement doesn't it ? It's abundantly clear they are not actually interested in reducing gun crime. They are interested in social engineering.
 
Ok I have a question……..
And I apologize for my ignorance on this…
Yes I spent 20 years in the firearm industry making components….
“Gun stocks” for bolt action rifles.
My question…..
From what I’ve read is these “switches” are made and used in Glock semi auto handguns, I’ve never read that they are made or used in any other manufactured brand, if I’m wrong please correct me……
If it is just the Glock platform then why can’t these handguns be manufactured to prevent the use of the switches????
 
The Night Rider said:
Does anybody here remember Project Exile?

In 1997 Richmond Virginia started prosecuting gun crimes in Federal Court and the Federal Court sentenced people to a mandatory minimum five years in federal prison. If I understand correctly they were also prosecuting Prohibited Peesons Federaly and sending them to Federal Prison.

From Wikipedia

Within the first year (1997–1998) Project Exile resulted in:[2]

  • The first Exile case made by Officer Gene Baskette, and Officer Mark Wooten of the Street Enforcement Unit of the Richmond Police Dept.
  • 372 persons indicted for Federal gun violations.
  • 440 illegally possessed guns seized.
  • 300 persons arrested or held in State custody.
  • 222 arrestees (more than 74 percent) held without bond.
  • 247 persons convicted.
  • 196 persons sentenced to an average of 55 months of imprisonment.
During the first year of Project Exile (1998), homicides in Richmond declined 33%, for the lowest number since 1987, and armed robberies declined 30%. In 1999, homicides declined another 21%.[2] By 2007, homicides in Richmond were down to 57 compared to 122 in the year before Project Exile.[4]

I read somewhere that a big part of the program was that offenders were sent to Federal Prisons away from their home state. Where they didn't know anyone in the Prison and it was too far for their family to go visit them. Which also had a deterrent effect but I can't find any documentation on that.

Unfortunately the program was discontinued because (It actually worked) it was found to "disproportionately affect African Americans."

Although, I'm hearing that certain places are bringing it back.
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Having lived in the Richmond area all of my life I’m very aware of the positive effect Project Exile had in removing career criminals from our streets. The current mayor and city council members are dead set against its return. Seems they are more concerned with black votes than black lives.
 
Keystone19250 said:
Ok I have a question……..
And I apologize for my ignorance on this…
Yes I spent 20 years in the firearm industry making components….
“Gun stocks” for bolt action rifles.
My question…..
From what I’ve read is these “switches” are made and used in Glock semi auto handguns, I’ve never read that they are made or used in any other manufactured brand, if I’m wrong please correct me……
If it is just the Glock platform then why can’t these handguns be manufactured to prevent the use of the switches????
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Just glocks that i know of and glock might have to actually change the gun to do that. they haven't changed the look or components so i doubt they will now. I like glocks but good gawd they could be more innovative.
 
bc22wm said:
???? I'm beginning to think the mod.'s are screwing with me ;) Yes I'm paranoid.
REPRESENTATIVE damn it! Although now that I think on it, "recriminative" may be more accurate:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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I actually missed that …… I must be getting old ……😬
 
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Keystone19250 said:
Ok I have a question……..
And I apologize for my ignorance on this…
Yes I spent 20 years in the firearm industry making components….
“Gun stocks” for bolt action rifles.
My question…..
From what I’ve read is these “switches” are made and used in Glock semi auto handguns, I’ve never read that they are made or used in any other manufactured brand, if I’m wrong please correct me……
If it is just the Glock platform then why can’t these handguns be manufactured to prevent the use of the switches????
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Why should Glock make changes to there guns just to please the government, there design has been here from the beginning and these switches have just come to light in the past few years, instead of going after a firearm manufacturer, go after the importer and manufacturer of the switches, typical, go after the guns instead of the real issue…….
 
Keystone19250 said:
Ok I have a question……..
And I apologize for my ignorance on this…
Yes I spent 20 years in the firearm industry making components….
“Gun stocks” for bolt action rifles.
My question…..
From what I’ve read is these “switches” are made and used in Glock semi auto handguns, I’ve never read that they are made or used in any other manufactured brand, if I’m wrong please correct me……
If it is just the Glock platform then why can’t these handguns be manufactured to prevent the use of the switches????
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That's no different than expecting ALL gun manufacturers to simply make all guns with biological smart technology is it?

Why should Glock be forced by the government to redesign their guns to please politicians ? It's also pretty much admitting they are liable, legally speaking. Or at least will be construed that way by lawyers. This entire suit is not actually about Glock switches. It's about exploiting a perceived "in" to do an end run around the PLCAA.
 
And is anyone stupid enough to believe a "Switch" can't be designed for every other gun in existence ? And if Glock Acquiesces and redesigns their guns and pays off the "Victims", how long will it be before we see the same thing happen with S&W, HK, Sig and the rest of them ?
 
The Night Rider said:
Does anybody here remember Project Exile?

In 1997 Richmond Virginia started prosecuting gun crimes in Federal Court and the Federal Court sentenced people to a mandatory minimum five years in federal prison. If I understand correctly they were also prosecuting Prohibited Peesons Federaly and sending them to Federal Prison.

From Wikipedia

Within the first year (1997–1998) Project Exile resulted in:[2]

  • The first Exile case made by Officer Gene Baskette, and Officer Mark Wooten of the Street Enforcement Unit of the Richmond Police Dept.
  • 372 persons indicted for Federal gun violations.
  • 440 illegally possessed guns seized.
  • 300 persons arrested or held in State custody.
  • 222 arrestees (more than 74 percent) held without bond.
  • 247 persons convicted.
  • 196 persons sentenced to an average of 55 months of imprisonment.
During the first year of Project Exile (1998), homicides in Richmond declined 33%, for the lowest number since 1987, and armed robberies declined 30%. In 1999, homicides declined another 21%.[2] By 2007, homicides in Richmond were down to 57 compared to 122 in the year before Project Exile.[4]

I read somewhere that a big part of the program was that offenders were sent to Federal Prisons away from their home state. Where they didn't know anyone in the Prison and it was too far for their family to go visit them. Which also had a deterrent effect but I can't find any documentation on that.

Unfortunately the program was discontinued because (It actually worked) it was found to "disproportionately affect African Americans."

Although, I'm hearing that certain places are bringing it back.
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The far away from home in prison part is only a half truth.

Bureau of Prisons policy (and often dictated by the courts of recent times) is inmates are held at an adequate rated facility within 500 mikes of their home.

Now the half truth. Back in The late 1990’s and mid 2000’s it wasn’t uncommon to give inmates that were disciplinary problems “diesel therapy” sending them in an almost unending transfer by bus institution to institutions and their property never caught up.

That practice was drastically reduced in the mid to late 2000’s.

With a firearms enhancement charge they usually had the points for or put a management variable on them to bump up their points that those folks were placed in high security institutions called United States Penitentiaries which are the worse prisons. Those are where the vast majority of homicides and serious violence happen. And within the USPs they use to have Special Management Units (SMUs) for inmates that had a history of violence but the ultra liberal new Director Ms Peters had SMUs closed as she felt stone cold murderers and assaulters just needed to be talked to more!

As far as inmates not knowing each other that’s BS they have a network and inmate dot com is strong!

Every federal prison has inmates that break themselves down by race gang affiliation and the. They have cars. So say USP Atwater California or Florence CO or Terre Haute Indiana has the regional cars and even a state car like the Missouri inmates, Illinois inmates Ohio inmates etc etc

It’s an actual real life version of that 7 degrees of separation Kevin Bacon game but with criminals!
 
If only we could find a legitimate journalist to actually call out the government for not prosecuting the laws already on the books (re Glock switches). I know it’s a pipe dream to think the media might actually inform the citizenship on its’ government’s failures, but do I get so tired of seeing “new” laws being signed when the exact same laws are already in force and easily prosecuted by anyone not worried about “optics”.
 
Belt Fed said:
Just glocks that i know of and glock might have to actually change the gun to do that. they haven't changed the look or components so i doubt they will now. I like glocks but good gawd they could be more innovative.
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they call the Glock a safe hand gun but anyone who believes that keeping your finger off the trigger doesn't know what a safety really is,,,,,,,,, once a hand is holding a GLOCK it will go off it you touch the trigger ,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, remove the firing pin from a glock and it makes a fine paper weight
 
Annihilator said:
Why should Glock make changes to there guns just to please the government, there design has been here from the beginning and these switches have just come to light in the past few years, instead of going after a firearm manufacturer, go after the importer and manufacturer of the switches, typical, go after the guns instead of the real issue…….
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My intention in asking the question was not to go “after” the manufacturer.
 
grayghost said:
they call the Glock a safe hand gun but anyone who believes that keeping your finger off the trigger doesn't know what a safety really is,,,,,,,,, once a hand is holding a GLOCK it will go off it you touch the trigger ,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, remove the firing pin from a glock and it makes a fine paper weight
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Glocks are perfectly safe, you should always keep you finger off any trigger on any gun, Glock has the blade safety on the trigger like other polymer guns, but you never see anyone complain on them just a Glock, and they don’t just go off if you touch the trigger, poor or no training is the root of the cause.
 
Annihilator said:
Glocks are perfectly safe, you should always keep you finger off any trigger on any gun, Glock has the blade safety on the trigger like other polymer guns, but you never see anyone complain on them just a Glock, and they don’t just go off if you touch the trigger, poor or no training is the root of the cause.
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you are a glock fanboy there is no point in talking to you
 
Any gun that don't have an external safety engaged can go off if the trigger is touched hard enough. Glocks are not innovative but they are safe as any striker fired gun on the market. too many law enforcement officers carried and still carry them.
 
I will always wonder how many police shooting happen when a cop panics,,, once the first shot is fired,,,,,,,,,,,,, deadmen tell no tails

now I won't get into a pizzing match with the GLOCKERS,,, it is pointless you guys think they are great,,, I think they are junk,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and I will leave it at that,,,,
 
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