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Beretta 92FS, finally....

Went to the range a little while ago, this things a HAMMER, just about hits point of aim with everything I fed it.

Only two issues, were non-issues. Both were failures of the slide to lock back after the last rounds fired. First one was the ammo I tried (Inceptor 65 grain composite round nose), and the other was because of the magazine (got a free Taurus PT92 magazine and tried it of curiosity). The magazine fed just fine, but due to the difference on the magazine catch slot size.
 
Went to the range a little while ago, this things a HAMMER, just about hits point of aim with everything I fed it.

Only two issues, were non-issues. Both were failures of the slide to lock back after the last rounds fired. First one was the ammo I tried (Inceptor 65 grain composite round nose), and the other was because of the magazine (got a free Taurus PT92 magazine and tried it of curiosity). The magazine fed just fine, but due to the difference on the magazine catch slot size.
if you ever need (or want) additional Beretta magazines, and cannot find them, then magazines from this clone work fine....


when i got my 92FS black made in Italy, i did not like the "plastic trigger" on an all metal gun. so i replaced it with a Beretta all metal trigger, as well as the "D" hammer spring, and a steel guide rod, all bought from Beretta's website.

my 92FS satin steel color made in USA, all i replaced was the "D" hammer spring, as all else, (trigger and guide rod) were steel.

i love my Beretta's to pieces.

also, on my "black" 92FS, i replaced the El Cheapo plastic grips, with Beretta's thin rubber grips, as the satin steel one came with, it improved the grip feel perfectly for my smaller hands.

oh yeah, on both guns, i replaced the short plastic mag release buttons with an extended metal one, aslo from Beretta's website..

before

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after

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if you ever need (or want) additional Beretta magazines, and cannot find them, then magazines from this clone work fine....


when i got my 92FS black made in Italy, i did not like the "plastic trigger" on an all metal gun. so i replaced it with a Beretta all metal trigger, as well as the "D" hammer spring, and a steel guide rod, all bought from Beretta's website.

my 92FS satin steel color made in USA, all i replaced was the "D" hammer spring, as all else, (trigger and guide rod) were steel.

i love my Beretta's to pieces.

also, on my "black" 92FS, i replaced the El Cheapo plastic grips, with Beretta's thin rubber grips, as the satin steel one came with, it improved the grip feel perfectly for my smaller hands.

oh yeah, on both guns, i replaced the short plastic mag release buttons with an extended metal one, aslo from Beretta's website..

before

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after

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The only part that consider sub-par, is the recoil spring guide. Zahal makes a captured set up I kind of like.
Otherwise its as close to an issue M9 as I can get.
 
I don’t really have any issues with a plastic trigger, polymers do, and I don’t fret over a plastic guide rod much either, my Gen 3 G19 still has the original plastic guide rod after many hundreds of rounds, no issues, just me
 
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Just me, but I would replace any plastic guide rod on a carry gun.
i have been through this in the past, and "some here" questioned my decisions...

1 being the main spring housing, on an (at times) expensive 1911...

i switch out any plastic MSH for usually an Ed Brown all metal one....i had seen pics of broken MSH's, if i can find them again, i will post them..

to me, "all that money" spent on a metal gun, it should all be metal

as for guide rods, any gun that had a plastic guide rod, got a steel one.

funny (rhetorically) speaking, i have found more than a few clone guns cheaper than the high dollar name brands, with all metal parts



broken main spring housing 1911

pics are too big for uploading, here is a link

 
Not to repeat, but I have no issues with polymer guide rods, MSH’s, triggers and such, my G19, still original, both my Kimber’s polymer MSH and all my polymer guns, polymer triggers, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it, but it’s up to the owner want he prefers on there guns, as long as your happy, no problem.
 
Not to repeat, but I have no issues with polymer guide rods, MSH’s, triggers and such, my G19, still original, both my Kimber’s polymer MSH and all my polymer guns, polymer triggers, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it, but it’s up to the owner want he prefers on there guns, as long as your happy, no problem.
i never had an issue with a plastic guide rod, or a MSH break either

but when i spend good money, (like about $1,400 or up on a 1911) on a gun that is supposed to be/should be all metal, that's what i paid for, an all metal gun..polymer guns to me, are perfectly acceptable, as sold as polymer, and most of those guns cost me well under $800...Beretta prices paid

(i still replace plastic guide rods on polymer guns however)

however, i had seen a "few" pics or videos of field strip, or full disassembly, where "plastic parts" failed after a short round count..

i know that "some" gun makers recommend new recoil/trigger springs after about 5,000 rounds(??) as a matter of general maintenance, and reliability.

like you say, "if the owner prefers", which for the most part, i do.

i'd be "happier" however, if the gun makers just installed the parts the guns were originally made with, before "cost cutting" became the bean counters mantra.

i cannot recall the price i paid for the Beretta hammer "D" spring, trigger spring, and steel guide rod, but it could not have been more that $50(?), when we all know all gun makers buy thier parts in bulk, which (maybe) at thier pricing, would have cost Beretta all of $20 to have installed on the factory assembly line, then just add the nominal cost to the gun. as it takes no more time or effort to install the REAL metal parts, as it did to instal plastic.

same can be said for any MSH on a 1911, built on the assembly line.
 
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i never had an issue with a plastic guide rod, or a MSH break either

but when i spend good money, (like about $1,400 or up on a 1911) on a gun that is supposed to be/should be all metal, that's what i paid for, an all metal gun..polymer guns to me, are perfectly acceptable, as sold as polymer, and most of those guns cost me well under $800...Beretta prices paid

(i still replace plastic guide rods on polymer guns however)

however, i had seen a "few" pics or videos of field strip, or full disassembly, where "plastic parts" failed after a short round count..

i know that "some" gun makers recommend new recoil/trigger springs after about 5,000 rounds(??) as a matter of general maintenance, and reliability.

like you say, "if the owner prefers", which for the most part, i do.

i'd be "happier" however, if the gun makers just installed the parts the guns were originally made with, before "cost cutting" became the bean counters mantra.

i cannot recall the price i paid for the Beretta hammer "D" spring, trigger spring, and steel guide rod, but it could not have been more that $50(?), when we all know all gun makers buy thier parts in bulk, which (maybe) at thier pricing, would have cost Beretta all of $20 to have installed on the factory assembly line, then just add the nominal cost to the gun. as it takes no more time or effort to install the REAL metal parts, as it did to instal plastic.

same can be said for any MSH on a 1911, built on the assembly line.
Agree, the price didn’t go down due to the polymer parts, actually they cost more. As for the polymer guide rods on Berettas, I read it’s was mostly due to the military, some would actually bend the metal rod which could cause the slide and rod to rub, in turn caused the slide to slow some causing issues, easy fix, train them better on how to tear down and reassemble the gun…..but as usual, manufacturers will make things somewhat cheaper in the manufacturing process so they can save some money, but still charge you more.
 
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