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Can a SOCOM 16 Stop a Bear Attack?

Addendum to my prior comment: While I have never fired a M1A I went thru Army basic training with an M-14 qualifying as expert, scoring 2nd highest in the company. I also carried one in Vietnam as part of an artillery unit. The M1A is a fine rifle and I wish I had one as companion to my three M1 Garands.
 
Nitestik said:
You may wish to confirm this with your ranger friend, but culling an elephant herd that most likely is not even aware of your presence (otherwise you wouldn’t get them all) is not the same as a face-to-face encounter with a charging grizzly intent on doing you serious harm. It is not a question of whether a given caliber will “kill” a given animal. No, it is rather a question of whether a given caliber will “stop” that animal BEFORE they make a mess of you.
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This, hence the bigger the better imho. Years ago a native Alaskan clocked a huge bear with a .22 in the ear. Still I’d want THE most powerful firearm I can handle. Hot 45/70 loads are right a .458 power levels. Given that you’re going to have to shoot quickly and that you’re not going to get but very few rounds off LOTS of energy and a BIG hole seems to be the hot set-up.
 
Nitestik said:
You may wish to confirm this with your ranger friend, but culling an elephant herd that most likely is not even aware of your presence (otherwise you wouldn’t get them all) is not the same as a face-to-face encounter with a charging grizzly intent on doing you serious harm. It is not a question of whether a given caliber will “kill” a given animal. No, it is rather a question of whether a given caliber will “stop” that animal BEFORE they make a mess of you.
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I understand what you are saying but this discussion was a technical discussion of what caliber / cartridge would be capable of bringing down a bear and my point is that .308 is capable not whether or not a person has the stones to stand and deliver a shot on target. My only point is that the .308 is more than capable of putting down a bear.
 
On 1 November 1999 Gene Moe took out a Kodiak Bear with a Buck 110 Folding Hunter. Actually, he rendered it hors de combat and finished it off with his rifle, but he did take down the bear with a Buck Knife. Bella Twin killed the 1953 record grizzly bear with a single shot .22 rifle. I'm reasonably sure a .308 Winchester chambered rifle is enough gun for a Brownie or grizzlie.
 
Axperez said:
On 1 November 1999 Gene Moe took out a Kodiak Bear with a Buck 110 Folding Hunter. Actually, he rendered it hors de combat and finished it off with his rifle, but he did take down the bear with a Buck Knife. Bella Twin killed the 1953 record grizzly bear with a single shot .22 rifle. I'm reasonably sure a .308 Winchester chambered rifle is enough gun for a Brownie or grizzlie.
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I could kick your a$$ with a pencil, but is it prudent. Not really.
Anything can overcome anything with the opportunity.

Is it realistic? Nope
Use the proper tool for the job
A trowel is not wise to build a skyscraper and a .308 is not wise for a brown bear.
 
my 2C... 308 is more than capable. There are two way to stop and attack... hit a vital organ, or massive blood loss. The type load used will have some bearing on this, but generally speaking a .308 has enough hydro-shock and perpetration to deliver both. Unlike the soft tissues of the under belly, the muscular build and heavy bone structures will minimize the affects of both hydro-shock and perpetration so placement is still important, and I believe is the number one factor in stopping an attack if your weapon is capable of delivering on the noted. I would not feel under gunned with any firearm that can deliver hits to vital organs and provide significant tissue damage along the way... provided I have the skills to place that shot where it counts. Luck and skill is inversely proportional to the selected firearm abilities to deliver the aforementioned. If they made a pocket howitzer, that's what I would take. But in the real world we take what we can pack around and satisfies the assessment of our skill and nerve.
 
Some years ago I booked a Kodiak hunt after setting everything up I asked the guide what should I carry as a backup just in case he told me a 44mag or a 45LC loaded hot and heavy . Asked why not a .454 cas. and he told me because it only has 5rds and you might need something to fall back on.sic
 
Axperez said:
On 1 November 1999 Gene Moe took out a Kodiak Bear with a Buck 110 Folding Hunter. Actually, he rendered it hors de combat and finished it off with his rifle, but he did take down the bear with a Buck Knife. Bella Twin killed the 1953 record grizzly bear with a single shot .22 rifle. I'm reasonably sure a .308 Winchester chambered rifle is enough gun for a Brownie or grizzlie.
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Here is a pic of the skull of the bear shot by Bella Twin. When a grizzly charges you make sure you step to the side so you may place your 40 grain .22 bullets exactly where she placed hers. Oh, and when in the bush be sure to carry TWO Buck 110 Folding Hunters; after all, you may need a “back-up”. 🤣🤣🤣
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Though I am not likely to encounter a grizzly or Kodiak in Texas, there is an increasing chance that I might wander upon a black bear or escaped big cat. I tend to have a Ruger Redhawk loaded with 300gr jacketed bullets that rival standard .357 loads in velocity with me when in unfamiliar woodlands. Though I have a National Match M1A1, and a surprisingly accurate M1 Garand Tanker, my new favorite rifle is a quite light Ruger SFAR. It weighs in at 6.8 pounds, which is pretty easy on old shoulders. With aftermarket flip up sights, a too expensive parallax-free red dot and an undermount laser, I've found it to be very accurate on snap shots and long range shots.
 
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