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Can “Pro-Gun” Democrats Be Trusted?

When I was young and foolish, I voted for Bill Clinton his first term. I watched him say he would never infringe upon the 2nd Amendment rights of Americans. I quickly learned my lesson. Have never voted Democrat since.

Republicans frequently embarrass and disappoint. But the difference is real.

Recently, my state of Washington passed a ban on the sale of magazines over 10 rds. Among those who supported it were (what I thought were) "pro gun" Democrats from my district.

Even if a particular Democrat is truly pro gun, they still strengthen and empower the party that is rabidly against the right. They have no power within that party. They change nothing.

So, the answer to the question posed is, "NO!"
 
Yes. Yes they can be trusted To lie cheat and try to take your guns away. When the antigun folks are saying we dont really need guns I would like to ask then why do your security people need them. And there are a number of progun republicans that lie about not wanting to take our guns away.
 
Throughout human history, those in power for prolonged periods have always tended to disarm, or heavily restrict arms, for those they govern. That's why I support the idea of term limits. Democrats may currently be more open about their desire to disarm to populace, but the true danger lies in the existence of "Career Politicians", regardless of their party affiliations.
 
All politicians will say anything to get your vote to keep them in the lifestyle they are used to.
If that was not the case why did the democrats promise socialism to blm and loan forgiveness to all these lazy millennium college students just to get their votes.
 
When I was young and foolish, I voted for Bill Clinton his first term. I watched him say he would never infringe upon the 2nd Amendment rights of Americans. I quickly learned my lesson. Have never voted Democrat since.

Republicans frequently embarrass and disappoint. But the difference is real.

Recently, my state of Washington passed a ban on the sale of magazines over 10 rds. Among those who supported it were (what I thought were) "pro gun" Democrats from my district.

Even if a particular Democrat is truly pro gun, they still strengthen and empower the party that is rabidly against the right. They have no power within that party. They change nothing.

So, the answer to the question posed is, "NO!"
when ever election time rolls around most all politicians say and do anything and everything to keep the seat they hold warm. People need to gain and hold a better memory of how their State reps vote.
 
when ever election time rolls around most all politicians say and do anything and everything to keep the seat they hold warm. People need to gain and hold a better memory of how their State reps vote.
I think any vote a politican makes should be put before their constituents first.
Politician should vote what they majority of their constituents say to do.
A “quorum”
Establish that X number of respondents are needed on a vote from their district.
If they float the bill to their district and quorum is not met, politocian votes how they want. If quorum is met, they vote that quorum
 
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Good article on what this current administration says and actually does, we all know they are coming after our guns.

How America Became La La Land​

Nothing seems to be working. And no one seems to care.
By Victor Davis Hanson
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April 20, 2022
America these last 14 months resembles a dystopia. It is becoming partly the world of George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four, partly the poet Homer’s land of the Lotus-Eaters.
Nothing seems to be working. And no one in control seems to care.

The once secure border of 2020 vanished. Two-million people have crossed the southern border illegally in the last twelve months. Millions more are on the way.
The Biden Administration unilaterally and simply destroyed existing immigration law.
What followed was surreal. The administration claimed COVID was again on the horizon. So it justified forcing American citizens to keep wearing masks in public buildings and transportation. But at the same time, it waived all such requirements for illegal entrants.


Citizens who obeyed our laws had to mask up; foreign nationals who broke them did not need to take such precautions.
Biden blasted as near-criminals mounted border guards who used long reins to steady their horses. When investigations cleared them of wrongdoing, he went mute. This administration apparently sees its own American law enforcement at the border as criminals, and non-Americans who break our laws as their moral superiors.


Biden then concocted the perfect recipe for bringing back the inflation of the 1970s.
Print more money. Run up multitrillion-dollar annual deficits. Borrow trillions on top of a $30 trillion national debt. Send generous checks to workers for staying home. Shrug at historic disruptions of the supply chain.
When reminded that his deliberate policies are the classic roads to inflation, Biden went fetal and ignored the warnings. Or he lashed out and blamed anyone and anything for his own suicidal agendas.
First, we heard inflation was transitory. Then it was a mere concern of the elite. Then it was only a matter of exercise equipment being in short supply. Then it was solely because of Vladimir Putin. Then, somehow, it was also the result of Donald Trump. Then it was an organic phenomenon that presidents had little power to stop.
America was energy independent until the arrival of the Biden Administration. On the orders of his Green New Deal masters, Biden immediately began canceling federal oil and gas leases. He stopped new pipelines. He jawboned against the private financing of fossil-fuel production.
Biden was hellbent on his way to fulfilling his campaign promises of eliminating the use of natural gas and oil on his watch.
Then prices soared and the public grew irate. In response, still more incoherence followed.
The Biden Administration would not reverse its destructive energy policies. But as it floundered in desperation, Biden begged American enemies Iran, Russia, and Venezuela to pump more oil on our behalf. In vain, it beseeched Saudi Arabia to produce more of the hated icky stuff that we had in abundance but would not fully produce ourselves.
Biden tapped the strategic petroleum reserve. Yet the existential peril was not war or natural catastrophe but Biden himself and his far more dangerous policies.


Abroad, we looked at the relatively manageable situation in Afghanistan and simply fled. The terrorist Taliban quickly took over and restored its medieval rule.
The administration abandoned a $1 billion embassy and dumped a $300 million refitted airbase at Bagram. Over $70 billion in military supplies and weapons were left for Taliban terrorists.
Thousands of refugees were airlifted, unchecked, into the United States. Meanwhile, hundreds of known translators and helpers of the U.S. military were left behind.
As public outrage grew, in typical Biden fashion, he blamed the Afghanistan debacle on his generals. Then he blamed Trump. Then he denied that he had ever claimed the war was going well.
In the end, the public was told the humiliating flight was a near-perfect logistical evacuation, as if America should be proud of being better at running away than it is at fighting.
What explains an America that suddenly no longer works?
First, all of these problems are self-induced. They did not exist until Biden birthed them for ideological or political reasons. Apparently, his administration wanted a changing, more favorable electorate and demography at any cost.
Perhaps Biden was privately happy that cash-short commuters had to burn less gasoline. Maybe the more he printed money, the more he would be rewarded politically.
Second, Biden has no solutions to these self-created problems because of the ideological restraints the Left has imposed on him.


The administration fears the anger of the hard Left more than the furor of the American people. So it will not change, preferring to be politically correct and a failure than to be ideologically incorrect and successful.
Third, when people object, this administration answers either by blaming others for its self-created mess or by seeking distractions. Now it is faulting gun owners for the crime wave it fostered, supposed “white supremacists” for the racial tensions it fanned, and Putin, whom it appeased.
The common denominator? Biden knows that he inherited a stable, prosperous America and has nearly ruined it.
And he knows the American people know that too.
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About Victor Davis Hanson​

Victor Davis Hanson is a distinguished fellow of the Center for American Greatness and the Martin and Illie Anderson Senior Fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution. He is an American military historian, columnist, a former classics professor, and scholar of ancient warfare. He has been a visiting professor at Hillsdale College since 2004. Hanson was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2007 by President George W. Bush. Hanson is also a farmer (growing raisin grapes on a family farm in Selma, California) and a critic of social trends related to farming and agrarianism. He is the author most recently of The Second World Wars: How the First Global Conflict Was Fought and Won, The Case for Trump and the newly released The Dying Citizen.
 
I think any vote a politican makes should be put before their constituents first.
Politician should vote what they majority of their constituents say to do.
A “quorum”
Establish that X number of respondents are needed on a vote from their district.
If they float the bill to their district and quorum is not met, politocian votes how they want. If quorum is met, they vote that quorum
You can't! unless the only things you read is what Woke made up.lol
 
I would agree with the general sentiment here, that is that we should be very wary of trusting politicians, especially those who have been in the swamp for a long time. 47 years gets you...Joe Biden.

I always laugh at a Democrat who says "I'm a hunter. I own guns," because they are the first to get in line to take YOUR rights away if they think it may further their career. Sadly, I have a fear that there are more than Susan Collins and Mit Romney in the GOP who would be willing to throw the Constitution under the bus to advance their career, as well.

I don't trust any of the establishment ruling class to protect and defend the Constitution. That makes it more imperative that we are informed voters and make sure to participate in the primary process so we can influence who represents our values. Otherwise, we may very well be forced to support another weasel who doesn't have a "D" next to their name.
 
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