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Cop shoots acorn

Old_Me said:
those amendments only apply to honest people, not known criminals, thugs, etc.

why should criminals be afforded such rights, when they clearly never took the victims rights into consideration?

does a murderer ever say to his victim, "oh wait, i must check the constitution and see if i am violating your rights", before i slaughter you.

i show no respect for criminals. never did, never will.

apparently, too many others think criminals should "get a pass" on what they do.
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How about proving they are criminals first ? You are the very last person on the earth that should be the judge of who is or isn't a criminal. Random pissed off sister in law calls cops in New Hampshire to report her brother in law is a danger to himself and next thing you know cops come for his guns.

Some people might say that people who believe as you do, that citizens should be murdered based on what they look like or actions deemed inappropriate to YOU, without due process ARE DANGEROUS. In fact with zero regard for due process I'm not sure you can be trusted to carry a deadly weapon around.

Careful which rights you advocate eliminating. One day it could be applied to you.
 
Bassbob said:
How about proving they are criminals first ? You are the very last person on the earth that should be the judge of who is or isn't a criminal. Random pissed off sister in law calls cops in New Hampshire to report her brother in law is a danger to himself and next thing you know cops come for his guns.

Some people might say that people who believe as you do, that citizens should be murdered based on what they look like or actions deemed inappropriate to YOU, without due process ARE DANGEROUS. In fact with zero regard for due process I'm not sure you can be trusted to carry a deadly weapon around.

Careful which rights you advocate eliminating. One day it could be applied to you.
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don't need to prove they are criminals. video, witnesses, gun or knife in hand, dead person on ground, past record of arrest, jail etc.
 
Bassbob said:
Guys like you are a big part of the reason why non gun people look at gun people as bigoted, redneck, trigger happy morons.
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just cuz you do not agree with me, there was no need for name calling on your part.

not once did i disrespect you and called you any names.

aren't we supposed to keep things civil..???
 
Old_Me said:
don't need to prove they are criminals. video, witnesses, gun or knife in hand, dead person on ground, past record of arrest, jail etc.
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And when the cops screw up and shoot the wrong person, what then?

Like I said—may you someday be in the receiving end of the treatment you are in favor of.
 
Old_Me said:
just cuz you do not agree with me, there was no need for name calling on your part.

not once did i disrespect you and called you any names.

aren't we supposed to keep things civil..???
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He didn’t call you any names.

He simply compared you to a certain type of person.

And the comparison was accurate.

If this bothers you…consider why.
 
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I think old_me has a point but is being to literal, too specific in his definition of PTSD. We need to be careful about painting people with PTSD with "broad strokes of the same brush". Until we learn more (and we are learning) about PTSD we need to take each case on an individual basis and deal with it accordingly. Yes, some will slip through the cracks, but that is part of the learning process.
 
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