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Dusted off the Glock today

Been a Springfield guy for a long time. Bought my first Glock after shooting one for the first time about 5 years ago. I was MUCH more accurate with the Glock than all my XDs.

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Hi,

Old_Me said:
yup, it's been since October, 28, 2021, when i had the G-17 out of it's clamshell case. i had to dust off a layer of dust, from that clamshell case. this is actually my "back up" home defense gun. (it is also my first "plastic gun" when i started, the CZ 75 B is my first all metal gun)

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I'm glad you had some fun at the range. Nice work. My first pistol was going to be a G17. When I found out i could not order a Gen 5 the sales guy put an XD9 into my hand and I loved it. Thanks for sharing your fun!


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
tapehoser said:
Chiming in on the original post, I've never placed much lube on my handguns. The minimal amount I DO use, is on the steel rails of the slide and frame, and maybe a tiny bit on the outside and inside of the barrel itself.
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pretty much how i oil all my guns, from my least expensive Tisas 1911, to my most expensive Korth Mongoose revolver..in fact, i apply a little bit of oil, and lightly wipe it off.

i too have seen some guns that people take to the range as dripping wet.
 
Hi,

Old_Me said:
now too...this is the second gun i am about to tell you about using Weapon Shield and it seemingly "disappearing".

when i took it out of the case, i field stripped it, and gave it some good ole Hoppes into the slide rails, and trigger connector.

and i am ever so glad that i did.....dang Weapon Shield is disappearing on these longer term non-use guns.

i think that from now on, i'll forgo the Weapon Shield and stick with Hoppes.
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If I may, I'll offer my noob reaction to the original issue also. ;)

I'm not familiar with Weapon Shield, just what I've read on the interwebs, but I am familiar with Hoppes products. I keep a little Hoppes in my range bag just in case.

For my regular cleaning and maintenance I use the Shooter Lube products. All my pistols have seen nothing else. (Not that I have a vast collection or anything.):p

Yesterday Mrs. BassCliff and I went for a practice session at our local outdoor range. She had not shot her Kahr CW9 since November of last year, about five months ago. She keeps it loaded and "sort of hidden" in a little basket on her night stand. I thought about putting a couple drops of oil on the slide before we took it out but I didn't.

The CW9 ran fine, no glitches at all. I did clean and lube it again when we got home. Everything looked great. When she was a child my youngest daughter would say, "Dot, dot! Not a lot!" It's doesn't take much lube, just a drop on each side of the slide. Other places, just put some drops on a Q-Tip and wipe over the surfaces.

Now, we live in a mild climate here in Southern California so your mileage may vary. However, this product is synthetic and doesn't freeze. I'll get first hand knowledge of this after I move to the upper Midwest soon. ;)

Oh bother, I sound like a commercial. Sorry. I'm not affiliated with the company, just a very satisfied customer. Feel free to take my recommendation with a grain of salt. This old noob has been training hard only since August of 2020.

As Chico Esquela would say, "Shooter Lube been berry berry good to me!" :ROFLMAO:

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Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
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BassCliff said:
Hi,



If I may, I'll offer my noob reaction to the original issue also. ;)

I'm not familiar with Weapon Shield, just what I've read on the interwebs, but I am familiar with Hoppes products. I keep a little Hoppes in my range bag just in case.

For my regular cleaning and maintenance I use the Shooter Lube products. All my pistols have seen nothing else. (Not that I have a vast collection or anything.):p

Yesterday Mrs. BassCliff and I went for a practice session at our local outdoor range. She had not shot her Kahr CW9 since November of last year, about five months ago. She keeps it loaded and "sort of hidden" in a little basket on her night stand. I thought about putting a couple drops of oil on the slide before we took it out but I didn't.

The CW9 ran fine, no glitches at all. I did clean and lube it again when we got home. When she was a child my youngest daughter would say, "Dot, dot! Not a lot!" It's doesn't take much lube, just a drop on each side of the slide. Other places, just put some drops on a Q-Tip and wipe over the surfaces.

Now, we live in a mild climate here in Southern California so your mileage may vary. However, this product is synthetic and doesn't freeze. I'll get first hand knowledge of this after I move to the upper Midwest soon. ;)

Oh bother, I sound like a commercial. Sorry. I'm not affiliated with the company, just a very satisfied customer. Feel free to take my recommendation with a grain of salt. This old noob has been training hard only since August of 2020.

As Chico Esquela would say, "Shooter Lube been berry berry good to me!" :ROFLMAO:

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Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
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the Weapon Shield is a synthetic lube as well. only been now into my i guess, 3rd year of gun ownership, and i am familiar with synthetic lubes from my garage days as a youth, with Mobil 1's introduction when i ran a Mobil gas station.

i just find it disturbing that the Weapon Shield stays visible, if the guns are used in a couple of weeks, but seemingly disappears if a few month's go by..????

i appreciate the oils that you use, i will stick to Hoppes, i don't want a warehouse of lube products in mine.

i do not carry tools, or lubes to the range, that is what my work bench is for, and the range bag is for the guns and ammo, eye, and ear protection, spare batteries for my ear protection, and my targets.

not only that, but the range i go to...??

does NOT allow field stripping of guns either at the back bench, or at the shooting ports. too many inexperienced people go there, and they can hardly shoot at a target, can you imagine any of them field stripping guns there as well..???

my private gun club however, has a gun cleaning room, that again, all work, cleaning and lubing, gets done at my house.
 
Hi again,

Old_Me said:
i just find it disturbing that the Weapon Shield stays visible, if the guns are used in a couple of weeks, but seemingly disappears if a few month's go by..????
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Does it get absorbed into the pores of the metal? That's one of the buzz phrases that lube companies like to use. ;)

Old_Me said:
i appreciate the oils that you use, i will stick to Hoppes, i don't want a warehouse of lube products in mine.
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I hear you. Mixing products is probably not the best idea.

Old_Me said:
i do not carry tools, or lubes to the range, that is what my work bench is for, and the range bag is for the guns and ammo, eye, and ear protection, spare batteries for my ear protection, and my targets.

not only that, but the range i go to...??

does NOT allow field stripping of guns either at the back bench, or at the shooting ports. too many inexperienced people go there, and they can hardly shoot at a target, can you imagine any of them field stripping guns there as well..???

my private gun club however, has a gun cleaning room, that again, all work, cleaning and lubing, gets done at my house.
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I've gone out of town quite often to visit friends and shoot at their ranges. I bring a small cleaning and tool kit with me, just in case. But I've always done my cleaning and maintenance at home too.

I have never checked into the rules for field stripping a firearm at the local ranges I frequent. I've never had a reason to field strip while at the range. Hmmm. I'll remember to ask, if the need ever arises. One time I did have a squib load that got a bullet stuck in the barrel. We were about done for the day anyway. So we just called it quits and I brought it home and fixed it.

Having said all that, and thank you for the chat, would you not recommend the Weapons Shield product? Because you can't see it, due to evaporation or absorption, do you think it's no longer working? Would you be concerned about extra wear? I appreciate your time.

[EDIT] Wow, the testimonial tab on this page is very convincing: https://www.steelshieldtech.com/shop/weapon-shield/weapon-shield/#tab-testimonial

Forgive me. I don't have a lot to do today. Maybe I should take the dog for a walk. ;)


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
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BassCliff said:
Hi again,



1) Does it get absorbed into the pores of the metal? That's one of the buzz phrases that lube companies like to use. ;)



I hear you. Mixing products is probably not the best idea.



2) I've gone out of town quite often to visit friends and shoot at their ranges. I bring a small cleaning and tool kit with me, just in case. But I've always done my cleaning and maintenance at home too.

I have never checked into the rules for field stripping a firearm at the local ranges I frequent. I've never had a reason to field strip while at the range. Hmmm. I'll remember to ask, if the need ever arises. One time I did have a squib load that got a bullet stuck in the barrel. We were about done for the day anyway. So we just called it quits and I brought it home and fixed it.

Having said all that, and thank you for the chat, would you not recommend the Weapons Shield product? Because you can't see it, due to evaporation or absorption, do you think it's no longer working? Would you be concerned about extra wear? I appreciate your time.



Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
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1) it is possible, then for me, i'd not be too sure if there is any lubricity to the metal parts? it would be (to me) such a light coating if any at all, can it hold up to the heat from the friction? i'll have to watch the videos again, then maybe post a couple.

2) well, this i do not do. after 48 years as a truck driver, my traveling days ended a few years ago.

the most i will travel is (about) 35 miles one way, to the state's outdoor free range. then back home. otherwise, like we say here in RI...."that's too fah to drive".....and i live by that from all the years of being on the roads of America.

yes, at the one public range i go to, NO gun disassembly, seriously, way too many noobs that as they are now, dangerous, walking around with guns in thier hands and have to be warned LOULDY by the RSO's to get back to the ports. and thier shooting, well many just do not practice as much as i do. i too was a noob, and was lucky to hit the target, but i was going "up to" 4 times a week to practice.

some of those noobs think that ammo ought to be free forever. not that it ever was, after that ONE free box with a gun purchase, during the pandemic.

which i why i stay away from ALL ranges except the club, on the weekends...too many Rambo's on the weekends.



at the state owned outdoor range, NO gun disassembly

at my private gun club (maybe other private clubs as well??) they have a tiny gun cleaning room. i never use it myself, but i do "donate" cleaning materials so others can.
 
here is only one, of a series of tests done with Weapon Shield and it's protection to a roller bearing.

this is much like the testing done, by the Wynn's oil rep,for thier oil additive product they had at the time, and then the Mobil sales rep for the protection that Mobil 1 offers bearings and other engine parts.

this test, since i had seen it in my gas station live, and in living color, convinced me that Weapon Shield is superior protection. however the W/S man does not mention "soaking into the metals"

 
Hi,

Old_Me said:
here is only one, of a series of tests done with Weapon Shield and it's protection to a roller bearing.

this is much like the testing done, by the Wynn's oil rep,for thier oil additive product they had at the time, and then the Mobil sales rep for the protection that Mobil 1 offers bearings and other engine parts.

this test, since i had seen it in my gas station live, and in living color, convinced me that Weapon Shield is superior protection. however the W/S man does not mention "soaking into the metals"

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That was a very convincing test. Now, for curiosity's sake, I'd like to see my Shooter Lube product used under the same conditions. Let me see what I can find. ;)


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
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Hi,

Just so you know, after searching the internet for a couple of hours I could not find a "stress test" featuring Shooter Lube. All but one guy I found said the system cleans/lubes great. Somebody said it was like Frog Lube. Others say synthetic gear oil (like Lucas) works fine as a gun oil (no need for their specific gun oil product). Still others use a home brew concoction of various automotive cleaners and lubricants on their guns. So, meh. Maybe I've just fallen victim to the snake oil hype. :p


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
It's probably all snake oil. Weapon Shield works fine for me. I like the needle oiler. When it's empty I may buy another one ( it's lasted a couple years now) or I might fill it back up with Lucas, which is my current fix.

And yes, Weapon Shield ( as well as Seal 1 and Frog Lube and a few others) allegedly soaks into the metal, supposedly making it easier to clean as well.
 
BassCliff said:
Hi,

Just so you know, after searching the internet for a couple of hours I could not find a "stress test" featuring Shooter Lube. All but one guy I found said the system cleans/lubes great. Somebody said it was like Frog Lube. Others say synthetic gear oil (like Lucas) works fine as a gun oil (no need for their specific gun oil product). Still others use a home brew concoction of various automotive cleaners and lubricants on their guns. So, meh. Maybe I've just fallen victim to the snake oil hype. :p


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
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yes, i didn't get back to you earlier, my bad, but i too found no comparison testing either. i may have "seen" that same guy you mentioned, and frankly, he came off as a nobody doing a review. i tend to turn off you tube nobodies, as thier information is like flies to......:poop:

i tend to stick with the tried, true and proven you tube people.
 
Bassbob said:
It's probably all snake oil. Weapon Shield works fine for me. I like the needle oiler. When it's empty I may buy another one ( it's lasted a couple years now) or I might fill it back up with Lucas, which is my current fix.

And yes, Weapon Shield ( as well as Seal 1 and Frog Lube and a few others) allegedly soaks into the metal, supposedly making it easier to clean as well.
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that i saw, the easy cleaning. i bought maybe a dozen bottle/needle oiler from amazon, and as such, i just refill those.

comes out (maybe) cheaper than buying the product already set up in such a container.

can you however, understand my feelings on seeing a "dry" gun, after it has been well lubricated several weeks earlier?

it's like when i field strip a gun, i used Hoppes on. when i field strip it, i can SEE the Hoppes?

and for the concerned few, i do not over oil my guns. i lube them, then wipe off much of it, just enough to leave a "film" on the parts. even inside the barrels....i run a wet oiled patch thru them, then at least 2 dry patches to remove any excess.
 
Old_Me said:
that i saw, the easy cleaning. i bought maybe a dozen bottle/needle oiler from amazon, and as such, i just refill those.

comes out (maybe) cheaper than buying the product already set up in such a container.

can you however, understand my feelings on seeing a "dry" gun, after it has been well lubricated several weeks earlier?

it's like when i field strip a gun, i used Hoppes on. when i field strip it, i can SEE the Hoppes?

and for the concerned few, i do not over oil my guns. i lube them, then wipe off much of it, just enough to leave a "film" on the parts. even inside the barrels....i run a wet oiled patch thru them, then at least 2 dry patches to remove any excess.
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Of course I understand. One thing I know about the topic of oil/lube and gun maintenance. Everyone has their own way they like to do it and things they like to use. And all of them probably work as well as the next guy's.

I generally use the WS on slide rails and contact points in striker fired handguns. And all of those get field stripped, wiped and lubed regularly whether they have been used or not. I have de-humidifiers in my safes and the ones that are " Out and about" get checked very frequently. I have never seen a speck of rust on any of my guns and I have never had any fail due to lack of lubrication. I generally use Lucas ED CLP on ARs and shotguns.

That's what works for me. I will no doubt change my routine to something else that works for me at some point in the future. :)
 
Bassbob said:
Of course I understand. One thing I know about the topic of oil/lube and gun maintenance. Everyone has their own way they like to do it and things they like to use. And all of them probably work as well as the next guy's.

I generally use the WS on slide rails and contact points in striker fired handguns. And all of those get field stripped, wiped and lubed regularly whether they have been used or not. I have de-humidifiers in my safes and the ones that are " Out and about" get checked very frequently. I have never seen a speck of rust on any of my guns and I have never had any fail due to lack of lubrication. I generally use Lucas ED CLP on ARs and shotguns.

That's what works for me. I will no doubt change my routine to something else that works for me at some point in the future. :)
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yeah, i have a large dehumidifier my self, and large desiccant bags in the storage cabinets. i have no room for a small safe, much less one of those beautiful large ones i always see at the LGS. all my guns, get a light wiping of food grade mineral oil (recommended by GunBlue 460?) as a way to prevent rusting)
 
Old_Me said:
yeah, i have a large dehumidifier my self, and large desiccant bags in the storage cabinets. i have no room for a small safe, much less one of those beautiful large ones i always see at the LGS. all my guns, get a light wiping of food grade mineral oil (recommended by GunBlue 460?) as a way to prevent rusting)
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I use food grade mineral oil when I am cleaning up and restoring old safety razors. Only on the internals ( and very sparingly) of the twist to open ( butterfly) Gillettes. That stuff is greasy as hell and difficult to wash off your hands. It works good to loosen and slick up moving parts, but I’ll stick to regular oil for regular rust prevention. It’s likely a good choice for long term storage I reckon.
 
Hi,

Have you guys ever seen a "What's the best oil?" thread on a motorcycle forum? :ROFLMAO:

Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Bassbob said:
I use food grade mineral oil when I am cleaning up and restoring old safety razors. Only on the internals ( and very sparingly) of the twist to open ( butterfly) Gillettes. That stuff is greasy as hell and difficult to wash off your hands. It works good to loosen and slick up moving parts, but I’ll stick to regular oil for regular rust prevention. It’s likely a good choice for long term storage I reckon.
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i been wanting that old fashion razor. i went to get one that was advertised, and the store was out of stock. i have since forgotten about getting one...until now.
 
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