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Emissary 1911 - Rear Slide Overhang

reading this thread, got me to thinking about checking mine. 1st one is a SA Milspec about 5 yrs old, 2nd is a colt with the frame dated to 1917 (haven't checked the rest of it yet, but will) and of course we cannot leave out Mr Browning 1911-380 :) SAmilspecab.jpgcolt1917aab.jpg1911380ab.jpg
 
Frank 2041 said:
Just looked it up... The Emissary is "low end" compared to what my Kimber cost.. So welcome to the low end Club...:).
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Just to clarify, when I saw low end, I'm referring to one thing only, and that's cost. Because just like with everything, cost is directly connected to the manufacturing quality you get. Does that mean a $500 1911 is going to fall apart when you pick up, of course not. But it's definitely not going to look or feel the same as a $1500 pistol. And when I say low end, I don't mean anything derogatory by it. I should have said "low cost" in my original comment, to keep from ruffling feathers lol.

You know Kimber makes more than one model!! lol... My TLE Stainless II, which I believe I gave $900 for new, is by far my lowest quality 1911. Everything is fit sloppy, the finish is spotty, the slide stop had to be replaced out of the box because it wasn't in spec and prematurely locked the slide open. That's the low end to me, but still not the lowest end! I also have a Kimber Warrior that is the complete opposite of my TLE. It also cost almost twice as much. As for the Rapide, which is like what, $1600+? I highly doubt that exhibits the same issues that the lower cost models suffer from.

The Emissary is most definitely in the low end/low cost bracket. All MIM small parts, and I don't believe it has any type of hand fitting like the TRP's do. But even with my janky slide over hang, it's still a solidly built pistol, with some cool features that you normally only see reserved for more costly variants. So while it's low end, I wouldn't consider it the lowest end. The LB Operator I purchased a few years back, which actually had some hand fitting, and still had issues out of the box lol. It ended up being a great pistol after an RMA. If SA could just reel in their quality control, I would recommend them up and down.

As for comparing DW to Nighthawk, those two aren't even in the same realm!! DW's are still production guns, with some hand fitting. Nighthawk's are meticulously built from the ground up, hand fit everything. So comparing productions to customs just doesn't fit. Be better served comparing Wilson with Nighthawk, etc. DW's are great guns, and some pretty costly, I gave like $2100'ish for my Discretion. Did I get more for the cost than I did with my $900 Kimber? Most definitely. That thing is pristine. But it's still comparing an Accord to a Corvette to a Ferrari.

Frank 2041 said:
They would be way ahead if they kept her away from the CS dept..and had her clean bathrooms or something...
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LOL!! She was just like "it work, no fix. No work, we fix." I was actually surprised with how short the responses were. Like at least fake like you give a **** lol... DW will foward you to a gunsmith to at the very least get a second opinion from a specialist.
 
Slider_556 said:
Just to clarify, when I saw low end, I'm referring to one thing only, and that's cost. Because just like with everything, cost is directly connected to the manufacturing quality you get. Does that mean a $500 1911 is going to fall apart when you pick up, of course not. But it's definitely not going to look or feel the same as a $1500 pistol. And when I say low end, I don't mean anything derogatory by it. I should have said "low cost" in my original comment, to keep from ruffling feathers lol.

You know Kimber makes more than one model!! lol... My TLE Stainless II, which I believe I gave $900 for new, is by far my lowest quality 1911. Everything is fit sloppy, the finish is spotty, the slide stop had to be replaced out of the box because it wasn't in spec and prematurely locked the slide open. That's the low end to me, but still not the lowest end! I also have a Kimber Warrior that is the complete opposite of my TLE. It also cost almost twice as much. As for the Rapide, which is like what, $1600+? I highly doubt that exhibits the same issues that the lower cost models suffer from.

The Emissary is most definitely in the low end/low cost bracket. All MIM small parts, and I don't believe it has any type of hand fitting like the TRP's do. But even with my janky slide over hang, it's still a solidly built pistol, with some cool features that you normally only see reserved for more costly variants. So while it's low end, I wouldn't consider it the lowest end. The LB Operator I purchased a few years back, which actually had some hand fitting, and still had issues out of the box lol. It ended up being a great pistol after an RMA. If SA could just reel in their quality control, I would recommend them up and down.

As for comparing DW to Nighthawk, those two aren't even in the same realm!! DW's are still production guns, with some hand fitting. Nighthawk's are meticulously built from the ground up, hand fit everything. So comparing productions to customs just doesn't fit. Be better served comparing Wilson with Nighthawk, etc. DW's are great guns, and some pretty costly, I gave like $2100'ish for my Discretion. Did I get more for the cost than I did with my $900 Kimber? Most definitely. That thing is pristine. But it's still comparing an Accord to a Corvette to a Ferrari.


LOL!! She was just like "it work, no fix. No work, we fix." I was actually surprised with how short the responses were. Like at least fake like you give a **** lol... DW will foward you to a gunsmith to at the very least get a second opinion from a specialist.
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Everything very well said but you haven’t answered my question.

You have made it very clear you have and like 1911’s and spent a lot of money on some but is this gun which you obviously have a “right now” cosmetic issue with is does it shoot?
 
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Just got my Emissary back from Springfield, and it feels like it spent a week at the custom shop. They did an absolute masterful job with the blending on the slide and the frame. The smoothness of it to the touch now rivals the feel of my Wilson. I'm 110% satisfied with my purchase now. I'm for sure an outlier when it comes to this issue too. I've talked to at least 10 other people now that have purchased Emissary's, and none of them had any issues with their fit or finish.

Thanks again to the folks on the forum and at Springfield for helping me sort out this issue! As soon as I can find a Vickers Master Class, I'll be throwing some more money their way!

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Slider_556 said:
Just got my Emissary back from Springfield, and it feels like it spent a week at the custom shop. They did an absolute masterful job with the blending on the slide and the frame. The smoothness of it to the touch now rivals the feel of my Wilson. I'm 110% satisfied with my purchase now. I'm for sure an outlier when it comes to this issue too. I've talked to at least 10 other people now that have purchased Emissary's, and none of them had any issues with their fit or finish.

Thanks again to the folks on the forum and at Springfield for helping me sort out this issue! As soon as I can find a Vickers Master Class, I'll be throwing some more money their way!

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Looks great, glad they fixed it for you
 
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