Hex Wasp - Anyone’s randomly stop working?
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deadduck357
Custom
So during this time is it currently mounted or sitting on a shelf?
Mounted. If it fails again it won't go back on.
deadduck357
Custom
Hopefully its working when/if needed.
If not the irons are still usable.
turbonitrous
Operator
Assuming you can see them
if I go one more step on my reading glasses I won’t be able to see the irons without them on.First...interesting....the latest replacement I just received is adjusting to the light conditions. The previous ones did not as far as I was able to determine. This one is obvious. Hopefully, that is a good sign that something is diferent.
I have a new problem. In taking off the plate to install the wasp (using the tool supplied with wasp) one of the plate screws head stripped. It was tight but should not have been over tightened as I had the plate off previously and the other screw was as expected. I only hand tighten with care when installing parts on guns.
The screw material had to be junk in order to strip like that with the little tool using only moderate hand pressure.
Now...I do not know of a method of getting that little screw out with a stripped head.
I cringe at the thought of shipping the slide back to Springfield and waiting a month or more to get it back.
Advice?
I have a new problem. In taking off the plate to install the wasp (using the tool supplied with wasp) one of the plate screws head stripped. It was tight but should not have been over tightened as I had the plate off previously and the other screw was as expected. I only hand tighten with care when installing parts on guns.
The screw material had to be junk in order to strip like that with the little tool using only moderate hand pressure.
Now...I do not know of a method of getting that little screw out with a stripped head.
I cringe at the thought of shipping the slide back to Springfield and waiting a month or more to get it back.
Advice?
Annihilator
Emissary
Yea, not cheap metal in the screws, those little rascals are noted to strip real easy, no matter which brand of red dot you have, actually there not supposed to be removed all that often, but when it’s a bad dot and you have to replace it, what you gonna do but take a chance with it. Try getting ahold of @xdman on here, he should be able to help you out.
jumpinjoe
Hellcat
I'm not certain but I think the tool supplied with the Wasp is a hex key, but the screws attaching the cover to the Hellcat slide are Torx head screws. Best I remember they are a fit that feels right, but the hex key will invariably strip out the Torx head screws in most cases if the screws are tight.
They are a very close fit, and to the tired old eyes of some of us, they look the same. Double check and be sure you're using the correct tool.
I got lucky and found a local gun store that had a gunsmith on site. He sorted it out in about 5 minutes...no charge. Hope I will be able to return the courtesy with a purchase soon.
He did confirm that the screws are soft and that he is seeing this problem often.
He says 19 lbs max on the screws as if I had something to check the max torque on those tiny screws.
I think the tool supplied is also torx...but as you say...these eyes could use some help.
He did confirm that the screws are soft and that he is seeing this problem often.
He says 19 lbs max on the screws as if I had something to check the max torque on those tiny screws.
I think the tool supplied is also torx...but as you say...these eyes could use some help.
Bassbob
Emissary
Wheeler and other companies make torque drivers. Relatively cheap, extremely handy for mounting optics and other things with inch lb torque ratings. It's also money well spent to pick up a good set of hardened Torx drivers. The little torx bits are ok for some things but they are weak. I broke a crap ton of them before I just went and got a set of actual drivers.I got lucky and found a local gun store that had a gunsmith on site. He sorted it out in about 5 minutes...no charge. Hope I will be able to return the courtesy with a purchase soon.
He did confirm that the screws are soft and that he is seeing this problem often.
He says 19 lbs max on the screws as if I had something to check the max torque on those tiny screws.
I think the tool supplied is also torx...but as you say...these eyes could use some help.
Ceapea
Operator
He says 19 lbs max on the screws as if I had something to check the max torque on those tiny screws.
I think the tool supplied is also torx...but as you say...these eyes could use some help.
Glad you got it worked out.
I believe that the Wasp booklet mentions 10-12 in/lbs...
turbonitrous
Operator
Exactly. INCH POUNDS. Less than one foot pound…. 10-12 foot lbs would be most valve cover bolts on virtually any motor
turbonitrous
Operator
Glad you got it… in the future, keep in mind sometimes it’s the tool and if you get a new sharp torx, sometimes you can get them…. If all else fails and your deseperate…. Clean them down with alcohol and brake cleaner… JB weld the tool into the head , clamp it and let it cure for 24-48 hours then crank it out. Of course you need a new screw and tool but better than being without for couple weeks. I just leave my plate offI got lucky and found a local gun store that had a gunsmith on site. He sorted it out in about 5 minutes...no charge. Hope I will be able to return the courtesy with a purchase soon.
He did confirm that the screws are soft and that he is seeing this problem often.
He says 19 lbs max on the screws as if I had something to check the max torque on those tiny screws.
I think the tool supplied is also torx...but as you say...these eyes could use some help.
f16_fixr
Alpha
I'm having the same problem with my Wasp. Barely had the gun & sight for a few months now and already on my 3rd battery. I understand that this sight does not turn off all the way but I was getting frustrated with every time I pulled the gun out of the case and looked at the sight, it was out again. I ended up just taking the Wasp back off the gun and am using the open sights now. Not sure what to do about it, but I don't feel like changing a battery every time I want to use the gun.
turbonitrous
Operator
Yeah it’s frustrating. I had two identical sight marks and the one would last forever and the other one would drain the battery when it was off… but even that horrible gem lasted for 4 months… these things are amazing battery eaters…very proficient. They should rename it from the wasp to the moth…. It might last if you always keep it in the darkI'm having the same problem with my Wasp. Barely had the gun & sight for a few months now and already on my 3rd battery. I understand that this sight does not turn off all the way but I was getting frustrated with every time I pulled the gun out of the case and looked at the sight, it was out again. I ended up just taking the Wasp back off the gun and am using the open sights now. Not sure what to do about it, but I don't feel like changing a battery every time I want to use the gun.
Keystone19250
SAINT
Send it back to Springfield for a replacement.I'm having the same problem with my Wasp. Barely had the gun & sight for a few months now and already on my 3rd battery. I understand that this sight does not turn off all the way but I was getting frustrated with every time I pulled the gun out of the case and looked at the sight, it was out again. I ended up just taking the Wasp back off the gun and am using the open sights now. Not sure what to do about it, but I don't feel like changing a battery every time I want to use the gun.
f16_fixr
Alpha
I hear ya. I do always keep it in the dark so that the brightness will be at its lowest level but it still drains the battery somehow. The other annoying thing, as you know, is that to change the battery, you have to remove the sight from the gun and that puts more wear & tear on those tiny little screws that I've read don't last long (stripping heads).
f16_fixr
Alpha
The only thing about that is, I'm not sure yet how long the battery should be lasting with normally keeping it inside a closed case. Is 3 or 4 weeks a normal life span?? I surely wouldn't think so.
turbonitrous
Operator
If this continues, anyone want to take bets on their next move. Here is my prophecy…. They won’t issue a recall, but you will get “ dear valued customer, we apologize for the issues you have experience with your hex wasp optic. We have been unable to rectify the issue with the manufacturer. As a result we will issue you a credit of $xxx on your NEXT purchase with SA. This credit will be applied in our store blah blah” At some point they will find that the constant replacement in man hours and postage will outweigh the margins they make on the $50 price target they are paying to hex… so the credit will allow them to still make margin and placate the customer even though it won’t. Most customers will just throw it in the trash and give up and they will bank on that