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C. Sumpin said:
This is a bit peculiar and mystifying to me.................
Humans being abused and tortured every day.......but......(and I'm against animal abuse) such reaction/outrage when it happens to an animal............?? Wow. OK.
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This is a poor line of thinking. People can express outrage or concern over a particular issue without it meaning that they don't care about something else. If we were to be outraged, or express outrage, over everything that we don't like, it'd be pretty exhausting. Just because I rescue dogs it doesn't mean I don't like kids. Because I like to help men it doesn't mean I hate women. Because I give more attention to veterans doesn't mean that I hate civilians (kind of).
People also tend to show more empathy toward those who can't defend or take care of themselves, which is why we have protected classes in our society. People are generally more outraged when a child is killed than a grown man. Same with animals, especially young, defenseless animals. We also have the ability to reason, which most animals do not.
Lastly, we don't all share the same values so we don't care about the same issues. That's just being human. That said, I've hunted people and I'm perfectly okay with that, but I've never been able to hunt animals (though I appreciate and respect those who do). Just my opinion.
 
Old_Me said:
A young puppy belonging to a Kansas police officer was beheaded in what authorities are calling a "targeted attack."


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What a sickening thought. Whoever did this deserves nothing less. Heartbreaking as it is..... thanks for the link Old_Me.

I've read before somewhere that humans are the only animal who kills for sport with one exception: It's said that a river otter will sometimes kill just for the sport of it, especially depending on their target/prey. I can neither verify this nor deny it, but I have watched otters in the wild playing with certain of their catch which absolutely appears to be sport killing.
 
jumpinjoe said:
What a sickening thought. Whoever did this deserves nothing less. Heartbreaking as it is..... thanks for the link Old_Me.

I've read before somewhere that humans are the only animal who kills for sport with one exception: It's said that a river otter will sometimes kill just for the sport of it, especially depending on their target/prey. I can neither verify this nor deny it, but I have watched otters in the wild playing with certain of their catch which absolutely appears to be sport killing.
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I have seen house cats kill for the fun of killing twice. Once was out in the field hunting when I saw a house cat jump into a covey of Quail and kill several and then walk away without eating a single one of them. The second time I saw a cat kill a Squirrel and after pawing it , it also left the dead Squirrel lay .
Here is a link --> https://wildlifeinformer.com/animals-that-kill-for-fun/

Cats aren't the only animals either .

I do hope that the person who attacked this puppy rots in h e double hockey sticks.
 
Just when I think nothing can/will surprise me........it does.
This thread has revealed much about many, and from a
supposed Freedom/Constitution/Patriot loving forum it
is astonishing; Not critical of anyone, only enlightened by
the depth/breadth of what to me is unreasonable view.
 
jumpinjoe said:
What a sickening thought. Whoever did this deserves nothing less. Heartbreaking as it is..... thanks for the link Old_Me.

I've read before somewhere that humans are the only animal who kills for sport with one exception: It's said that a river otter will sometimes kill just for the sport of it, especially depending on their target/prey. I can neither verify this nor deny it, but I have watched otters in the wild playing with certain of their catch which absolutely appears to be sport killing.
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papa said:
I have seen house cats kill for the fun of killing twice. Once was out in the field hunting when I saw a house cat jump into a covey of Quail and kill several and then walk away without eating a single one of them. The second time I saw a cat kill a Squirrel and after pawing it , it also left the dead Squirrel lay .
Here is a link --> https://wildlifeinformer.com/animals-that-kill-for-fun/

Cats aren't the only animals either .

I do hope that the person who attacked this puppy rots in h e double hockey sticks.
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i would imagine (and might be wrong), that out in the wild (or even domesticated cats), kill to sharpen thier hunting skills??

let's not forget that domesticated cats are ancestors to the wild beasts.

it's in thier DNA(?) to hunt.

they teach thier young (have you ever seen a house cat with her kittens?) how to 'hunt" a toy or other moving object.

but as said, in the general scope of things man is about the only "animal/mammal??"), that hunts for pleasure.

how many times have we seen severely injured animals in the wild that a moronic hunter shot at, injured and left it for dead, rather than to finish it off..??

but this acehole, that beheaded a puppy..???

that's is beyond anything else, and a person that NEEDS to be found ASAP, as i fear HE, may have already considered "hunting" a child........as in the case of a puppy...a weakling......


i care less the "snowflake nation" in America, and thier twisted response to being kind and understanding of THIS animal.
 
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For me, I can understand the reasoning behind a lot of crimes and heinous acts. I can think of a valid reason to steal, or to kill a man in cold blood, or to burn something down for example. The few that I can't, such as hurting kids or animals, are because there is no possible excuse or reasoning for it besides wanting to hurt something defenseless and innocent. That's where my moral outrage comes from towards people who do things like cut off a puppy's head. Actual innocence within humanity is so very rare that it needs to be protected at almost any cost and a person who is willing to be so wantonly cruel to something defenseless is outside the bounds of what I'm willing to protect or empathize with. Sometimes to defeat a monster you have to be a worse monster, just pursuing different ends.
 
C. Sumpin said:
Just when I think nothing can/will surprise me........it does.
This thread has revealed much about many, and from a
supposed Freedom/Constitution/Patriot loving forum it
is astonishing; Not critical of anyone, only enlightened by
the depth/breadth of what to me is unreasonable view.
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Serious question here because I may have missed something, and I ask sincerely for the purpose of understanding; what does being against animal abuse/cruelty have to do with loving freedom and the Constitution? I love freedom AND animals; I'm trying to understand what you meant here.
 
straydoglogic said:
Serious question here because I may have missed something, and I ask sincerely for the purpose of understanding; what does being against animal abuse/cruelty have to do with loving freedom and the Constitution? I love freedom AND animals; I'm trying to understand what you meant here.
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I love Freedom, animals, am against abuse of any kind for animals AND humans.
 
C. Sumpin said:
This is a bit peculiar and mystifying to me.................
Humans being abused and tortured every day.......but......(and I'm against animal abuse) such reaction/outrage when it happens to an animal............?? Wow. OK.
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Couldn't agree more. While the crime is an outrage, I would never place a human life over that of an animal. Sorry. Not similar at all. Don't get me wrong, the guy is a slime ball who deserves a serious punishment, no doubt. But I will always place human life over an animal any day.
 
I think after a while when day after day you either hear or read about people being killed all over the country, we have become desensitized to human-on-human violence. It's not even front-page news in the big cities anymore. For instance, in 2019, gun violence in Richmond was up 32 percent from the year before. There were 266 shootings, 65 more than in 2018 and Richmond police counted 59 homicides, eight more than 2018. Also in 2019, there was a case in Richmond where a guy chained a dog to a fence and set it on fire. Animal control rescued the dog, but it died soon after. It so shocked people and caused such an uproar that the state passed what became known as 'Tommie’s Law" making animal cruelty a felony offense. However, there was no new state law named for any of those 59 homicide victims. I guess when news of violent acts that go above and beyond what we've gotten used to hearing about hits that nerve in our psyche that still hasn't become numb, and we do tend want to go medieval on the perp who's responsible. But we calm down and then allow the system to do its thing and expect to see a punishment that suits the crime. To me, it's a positive thing to see that something collectively still can shock us all, and that there's still voices that pull us back from the edge.
 
straydoglogic said:
Roger that; just trying to understand the varying perspectives of other board members. Discourse is important.
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"discourse is important" Yes, critical even, and as of late I've been feeling like a home room student whose monitor has been called off campus, or one of Robin Williams students in Dead Poet Society experiencing the euphoria of radical dissent, or, an Easter Block citizens secret thrills at the discovery of Samizdat left on the public urinal, at the absence of activity by the Jolly censor from Bowelabama who with a heavy swagger of authority will summarily announce when a thread has "run it's course" and on the sole reason that he can do so, lock the thread and end further exchange that some are yearning to continue.
 
C. Sumpin said:
"discourse is important" Yes, critical even, and as of late I've been feeling like a home room student whose monitor has been called off campus, or one of Robin Williams students in Dead Poet Society experiencing the euphoria of radical dissent, or, an Easter Block citizens secret thrills at the discovery of Samizdat left on the public urinal, at the absence of activity by the Jolly censor from Bowelabama who with a heavy swagger of authority will summarily announce when a thread has "run it's course" and on the sole reason that he can do so, lock the thread and end further exchange that some are yearning to continue.
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