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So I’ve got some research to do on the .308 rounds I have in regards to pressure. The .308 ammunition I have is when I had the Savage AR10
Thanks.If the box says it's loaded to NATO-spec than you're GTG.
Looks like JRA just went down a few notches in my book based on that pile of misinformation.Here’s the ammunition warning I received with the manual for my James River Armory / Bula Defense M14 that was built off the original U.S. Army M14 blueprints. It looks like my SA NM M1A, but specifically called out the ammunition that is to be used. Photos of manual cover and ammunition warning page attached.
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More misinformation.....no modification is needed to shoot commercial ammo in garands.As per HGs comment the pressure curve is what can affect the op rod. Too much pressure on the op rod (the weak link) can cause it to bend out of spec.
That will result in getting a new op rod, or sending it to the very few folks that know how to restore it to spec.
Getting a Schuster adjustable gas plug and tuning it to the desired non-mil spec ammo is a lot cheaper.
The same applies to the M1 Garand and Schuster makes a adjustable plug for it also.
Baloney.More misinformation.....no modification is needed to shoot commercial ammo in garands.
Milspec and commercial are both SAAMI spec...Baloney.
Hotter than Milspec ammo (but still safe SAAMI .30-06 loads) can bend the operating rod if fired in a Garand with the stock gas system. Some people install an adjustable gas plug to mitigate this risk when firing commercial ammo.
The M1 Garand was desired to fire a standardized military loading, and it's gas system is tailored to that loading. Ammo marked m1 Garand operates at roughly the same pressure, which will keep it from damaging the rifle.
But, there ARE commercial target loads tailored to the Garand.
The Secret to a Long Life?: A Garand Diet or What to Feed Your M1 Garand (Part I) :: Guns.com
There's no traditional safety or decocker, rather a trigger safety like you see on Glocks, XD/XDms, Walthers, etc., and the only other external control...www.guns.com
Reading is fundamental.Milspec and commercial are both SAAMI spec...
The garand was designed to fire a 174gr FMJ at 2700fps.
Never said it was. But commercial ammo and milsurp ammo do operate at similar pressures.Reading is fundamental.
It's not about the bullet weight.
It's all about the pressure curve.Never said it was. But commercial ammo and milsurp ammo do operate at similar pressures.
M2 ball is 2800 at the muzzle.M2 ball is a 150gr fmj @ 2700fps
M72 match is a 173gr fmj @ 2700fps
Both loads use IMR 4895 which was designed specifically for the Garand in 1941.
What facts have you presented?It's all about the pressure curve.
But, go ahead and run whatever you want and ignore the facts.
Scroll up.What facts have you presented?
Posting links to poorly written articles with bad information isn't any way to post "facts".Scroll up.
Or, you can shop around for a used, in good condition Remington 700 in .308. That's the best way I know to use up extra ammo. Heck, you might even really like shooting a bolt-action rifle and acutually buy more .308 to shoot.So I’ve got some research to do on the .308 rounds I have in regards to pressure. The .308 ammunition I have is when I had the Savage AR10
As long as it’s loaded specifically for the Garand…commercial is fine.More misinformation.....no modification is needed to shoot commercial ammo in garands.
Not likely since it's operating pressures are very similar to milsurp ammoAs long as it’s loaded specifically for the Garand…commercial is fine.
But most commercial .30-06 is NOT loaded for it, and eventually WILL damage your rifle.
Hans and Talyn, I and other here certainly agree. This discussion comes around from time to time on almost every gun forum that I visit. I guess when the CMP advises to not use .30/06 ammunition in M1 Garands that is loaded beyond 50,000 CUP and has a bullet weight more than 172-174gr there should be no question. However, some folks have their own opinions and any further discussion is like beating a dead horse: