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My M1A Socom had a failure and blew apart

Jfal said:
Update, my online retailer agreed to take back the full case of ZSR M-80 ammo for a full refund, and they e-mailed me a shipping label and will pay the freight. Since this seems to be an excellent example of customer service, I will reveal that the retailer is True Shot from Tempe, AZ. They will be my first stop in shopping for bulk ammo going forward.

I always live my life with the philosophy that, "No's are free". It never hurts to ask!
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Outstanding customer service.
 
Don’t get me wrong here, but if I bought a high quality gun like the M1, I certainly would NOT use cheap ammo in it, be it Turkey, Russian or any of the other foreign made crap, when you buy a high quality gun, you need good quality ammo, when you take a chance with the cheap stuff, you usually get what you paid for, I’m sure Springfield should take of of this.
 
Y'all know that I have been an instructor since 1971. I have seen countless rounds go down range over the years, with many failures of various kinds, especially with pistol makers I will not mention here. But I have NEVER seen catastrophic failure in a QUALITY firearm that was not ammunition related.
 
HayesGreener said:
Y'all know that I have been an instructor since 1971. I have seen countless rounds go down range over the years, with many failures of various kinds, especially with pistol makers I will not mention here. But I have NEVER seen catastrophic failure in a QUALITY firearm that was not ammunition related.
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I do know that. And based on conversations here I would love to take one of your classes. Long way to drive for a class though.
 
Just an update.

Galactic Force Media uploaded another video in the last day or 2 (YouTube), he pulled bullets and weighed the powder charge in 10-15 rounds of the ZSR 7.62x51 M-80. He measured varying powder loads from 30 grains up to 41 grains in the cartridges he examined. I have since learned that too little powder can cause explosive charges in a casing rather than a slower burn rate for proper powder propulsion (I did not know that detail). His powder was a round-grain shape...I guess the other common powder for M-80 is a rice-shaped grain...they use different grain-weights for common loading quantities.

Anyway, his scale was certainly low-quality, but he zeroed it in the video and all appeared fairly legitimate. He also mentioned that he has uncovered 4 confirmed rifles destroyed, 2 more suspected (but unconfirmed).

An 11-grain difference in a powder charge seems a tad large to my uneducated brain...but that may be the issue...too small of a charge in some of the cartridges.

If anyone wants me to do so, I'll post the video here...just let me know.
 
Dayum! This is first I've heard of this. :eek: But I'm new here. :rolleyes:
I'm glad it all worked out. I own quite a few Springfield products and the few times I've dealt with customer service, they were absolutely outstanding. (y)
I've been shooting M1As for over 20 years. I don't put junk in them. I have shot a lot of mil-surp ammo and still own a good bit of it. The trick is to check the headstamp for the NATO cross. If its there, it means that this ammo has been checked and approved as meeting NATO standards. Sadly, it appears that the days of cheap, mil-surp ammo are about gone. 😟
 
The occurence of light load detonation was explored some years ago. It seems that some SAS shooters had it happen when they tried to make lighter loads for those big, old black power cartridges used in rifles. Normally, the primer lights the back of the powder charge and it moves forward in a controlled burn. The theory was that these light loads didn't take up enough room in the case. The primer flash would jump across the top of the charge, thus igniting all the powder at once resulting in an explosion.
That may be what happened here.
 
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