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Hello All...IL resident here and just got my FOID. I'm completely green under the collar with guns and would appreciate any advise on what is a good 1st time weapon. I have done some reading but the info available has been a bit overwhelming so I'd like to get people's opinions and/or advise just to see why they would suggest one thing over another.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
Ali
 
Oh wow that is a hard question to answer and a whole can of worms. Short answer is that there is no right first gun. It depends on what you want to do with it. Say if you always wanted to go elk hunting you would not want a pistol. The best advice I can give you is go to a range that rents guns, or find a new shooters course. That way you can be exposed to several different things and see what fits you best.
 
Welcome to the forum, you’ve asked the right question and there are a lot of members who can offer their experience/expertise.
I always tell my lady don’t answer a question with a question but your question begs for more information.
Do you want a......
Handgun?
Rifle?
AR15?
Bolt action?
Do you want a......
Range gun?
House gun? “Home protection”
Carry Gun?
9mm, 40SW, 45ACP Handgun Ammo.
Big question is how gun friendly is your state?
 
Start with a revolver. Rugers are a good starting point.

GP100

SP101

BTW - You can shoot 38 Specials in a 357, and the 327 mag is an effective self-defense cartridge.

The .327 Federal reaches the velocity levels of the 357 Magnum, if not the same power. Since the .327 still shares all case dimensions, excluding length, with the .32 S&W,.32 S&W Long, and .32 H&R Magnum, revolvers chambered for the .327 Federal can also safely chamber and fire these shorter cartridges.

With both .357 and .327 magnum cartridges this gives more flexibility especially when ammunition is in short-supply.
 
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I second XDMan's advice to go to a range that rents them and shoot a bunch.

Since you intend to conceal and carry it I suggest a reliable, subcompact, striker fired semi auto.

Budget?

Smith and Wesson M&P Shields are very reliable, perfect size for concealing and relatively inexpensive. Springfield XD and Hellcat are good, budget friendly choices as well.

For a little more you can step up to HK or Walther.
 
S&W 617, 4”.

.22LR, relatively inexpensive ammunition, and if you learn to shoot a double action revolver accurately and rapidly, any other platform is a breeze.

Beats a TRP as a first gun...

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Oh no you didn’t........ Back on the subject, I like the revolver idea. A DA/SA, Double Action/ Single Action. I don’t know your finances, and for handguns it appears that there is a 72 hour waiting period. If your able head to a range pick up a few pistols, if that’s what you have in mind, hold them, look down the sights, see if it feels comfortable to you. Compare several different models. Once you narrow a couple down take those to the range, whether it be a revolver or a semi-auto.

Shoot a .22lr and familiarize yourself with the platform. .22lr you can find at times, for less than larger calibers. Once you get comfortable with that purchase a larger caliber. If you find something at the range that you feel comfortable with, take it home, in 72 hours.
 
Since the OP (and others) is in a restrictive state (IL) if the OP went with a revolver in either .357 or .327 Mag a nice companion long arm could be this Henry Big Boy lever action which should avoid restrictive laws, and add self-defense capability in an easy to use firearm.

Henry Big Boy rifle
 
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All the other guys are right, but if you want an actual recommendation - Walther PPQ 4in in 9mm or 45ACP. This is a very good first pistol that is easy to handle as a beginner and something you can grow into as you become more accomplished. It has one of the best triggers on the market, is extremely accurate, comes with 3 15 rd mags and multiple back straps that will allow you to fit the grip to your hand. And you get a name that is part of gun lore. Instant street cred. There isn’t anyone who would criticize you for buying a PPQ.
 
All the other guys are right, but if you want an actual recommendation - Walther PPQ 4in in 9mm or 45ACP. This is a very good first pistol that is easy to handle as a beginner and something you can grow into as you become more accomplished. It has one of the best triggers on the market, is extremely accurate, comes with 3 15 rd mags and multiple back straps that will allow you to fit the grip to your hand. And you get a name that is part of gun lore. Instant street cred. There isn’t anyone who would criticize you for buying a PPQ.

Walther makes an excellent pistol. I came so close to getting one a couple weeks back, but a rifle was in the cards. They have a really, really good trigger.
 
Hello All...IL resident here and just got my FOID. I'm completely green under the collar with guns and would appreciate any advise on what is a good 1st time weapon. I have done some reading but the info available has been a bit overwhelming so I'd like to get people's opinions and/or advise just to see why they would suggest one thing over another.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
Ali

Welcome to the forum from a fellow Illinoisan . May I ask what part of Illinois you live in? I am in the South end of the state. I would also like to point you to Illinoiscary.com , another forum who's members were very instrumental in getting our carry law passed in this state as well as fighting a bunch of bad gun bills.

As others have stated , get training , try several different handguns , and practice all safety rules always.
 
I have a fairly healthy budget if necessary but of course I prefer less expensive options. Sounds like I have some homework to do :LOL:

Good luck, AliOop! As you can probably figure out, your question is one with a really diffficult answer. You may want to see if you can find a friend who has been shooting for a while and spend some time with them. Signing up for classes is a good move. You may want to wait until you start your class. Unless you are aware of an immediate, potential threat, waiting may pay off and keep you from wasting your money on a gun you wind up not liking.

In some ways, choosing a gun depends on your personality. Semi-automatics are a little more finicky about cleanliness and require more TLC to keep them in good working order than revolvers do. And, semi-autos are a little more finicky about ammunition also. Add to that there are myriad manufacturers for both types, with most manufacturers making several different models, and you can see why the answer to your question is so difficult.

Anyway, welcome to the forum! and keep staying involved. :)
 
Yes, welcome to the forum AliOop. The posters here have given good advice, one and all. I concur with those that say renting a few at your neighborhood (or closet) Gun range is a smart option. You could try both pistols (striker fire and hammer fire), and revolvers. For carrying after a permit is obtained, depending on how you will be carrying (i.e. Holster - Inside the Waistband (IWB), Outside the Waistband (OWB), Appendix Inside Waistband (AIWB), shoulder rig, pocket, or Bellyband, Fannypack, Pocketbook (if Female), etc.), could depend on the size of the handgun you may want. Compact and Sub Compact pistols and short barrel revolvers are easier to conceal. If you want to use the same gun as a home defense gun as well, a larger barrel/frame gun may be preferred due to a larger sight picture with more manageable recoil due to greater weight (Although one could become proficient with smaller compact/sub compact pistols and revolvers with training to use as a home defense gun).
I bought my two first guns in 2012, I too wanted to get my carry permit and decided to get Striker fire 4.25" barrel Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm full size pistol. It felt good in my hand and I immediately signed up for a training course before either carrying it or firing it at the range. I have since gone to smaller subcompact pistols like the Springfield Armory Hellcat and own several Striker Fire / Hammer Fire & revolvers as well as several rifles.
I am not recommending any particular firearm, The Smith & Wesson I first bought and liked, may feel horrible in you hands, that's why it's recommended that to try to hold several and rent to shoot the ones that feel right to you. After (or before), you have purchased the one your desire, It's imperative that you take an instructor led course to go over safety and how to properly handle and shoot your firearm BEFORE you shoot it by yourself or start carrying it. Good luck with whatever you decide.
 
AliOop- In addition to your firearm purchase, before you start to carry, invest in some training in the law. There are many organizations who provide this free to their members along with free legal representation should the need arise. US Law Shield and US Concealed Carry Association are two that come to mind although there are other good ones as well. Shop around for the one that fits your needs. There are threads on this site to help you with this. Search Concealed Carry Self Defense Insurance and ask some friends who carry in your state which ones work for them. I chose US Law Shield and am pleased with them. Good luck, shoot safely, and welcome!
 
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AliOop- In addition to your firearm purchase, before you start to carry, invest in some training in the law. There are many organizations who provide this free to their members along with free legal representation should the need arise. US Law Shield and US Concealed Carry Association are two that come to mind although there are other good ones as well. Shop around for the one that fits your needs. There are threads on this site to help you with this. Search Concealed Carry Self Defense Insurance and ask some friends who carry in your state which ones work for them. I chose US Law Shield and am pleased with them. Good luck, shoot safely, and welcome!
Good point Lock n’ load, (y) I’m an Elite member of USCCA myself.
 
AliOop- In addition to your firearm purchase, before you start to carry, invest in some training in the law. There are many organizations who provide this free to their members along with free legal representation should the need arise. US Law Shield and US Concealed Carry Association are two that come to mind although there are other good ones as well. Shop around for the one that fits your needs. There are threads on this site to help you with this. Search Concealed Carry Self Defense Insurance and ask some friends who carry in your state which ones work for them. I chose US Law Shield and am pleased with them. Good luck, shoot safely, and welcome!

One thing about our FCCL which takes 16 hrs of training to get , Illinois laws concerning use of force and other things are covered thoroughly . It never hurts to take lots of training though. Very good point made.
 
Walther makes an excellent pistol. I came so close to getting one a couple weeks back, but a rifle was in the cards. They have a really, really good trigger.


I have a Q5 Match. I almost bought a PPQ for carrying since the Q isn't that suited to concealing, especially with the red dot on it. Instead I got an HK VP9. The triggers on these two guns are very similar. I'm not sure I would suggest them to someone new to guns for carrying though. And they are both a little big for summer time CC. Both companies do make more concealable pistols, though I haven't tried any of them. I kind of agree with you though. If I only had one pistol I think I'd prefer it to be a full size, striker with a nice trigger.

I'd also like to recommend 9mm for a newbie, but you are going to have a hell of a time getting ammo for a 9 and you're going to pay through the nose for it.
 
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